I hope you will never see this letter (1961)

Post by wil421 » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 11:27 AM UTC

southernplaces7 wrote: post #76

jll29 wrote: post #61

From a modern perspective, it is a bit harsh to demand from one's wife ¨Hey babe, I am not coming back, please raise our two kids, oh and by the way please help our parents also!¨ - if she really was not at all informed.

Yes, because asking your wife and the mother of the children the two of you created together knowing that they're a commitment of decades at least, to then take care of those children for as long as she can is just so old-fashioned and sexist? What's the "modern perspective" he missed out on here? That caring for one's own children is a circumstantial and fluid responsibility depending on convenience levels? Asking h…

Post by Ichthypresbyter » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 11:30 AM UTC

turtleyacht wrote: post #10

selcuka wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He died in a training flight accident when he was only 34. I would still call it "untimely".

Thank-you for sharing that. I had not realized he would survive the mission in the article, only to ultimately pass so young.

Post by emptyfile » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 12:20 PM UTC

ifdefdebug wrote: post #47

That he felt need to include such blatant political statements in a letter like this is telling.

Post by rglullis » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 1:05 PM UTC

stereolambda wrote: post #77

rglullis wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it really matter the what and the who, if in practice both are effecting total submission and/or supression of dissent?

Look, I think your career ending example would make a better case for what you are trying to argue. If you dig into history of longstanding democratic countries like US and Switzerland, you find plenty of rioting and chaotic infighting throughout centuries. Classic republican (as in, US founders) thinking would be that while unfortunate, this is preferable to a police state being able to establish a true monopoly on…

Post by RedCondor » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 2:06 PM UTC

rvense wrote: post #70

Stratoscope wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GP may be referring to this: > Raise them as people who will deserve to live a new communist society. > I wish to dedicate this flight to the people of the new communist society... Would it seem political if someone wrote: > Raise them as people who will deserve to live a new capitalist society. > I wish to dedicate this flight to the people of the new capitalist society...

I think the America parallels to this statement would be God, democracy, "our way of life" and such, references to which would not at all be unexpected in a letter such as this from the 60's.