Cookie Banner is just a term for consent for data processing.
It is not exclusive to 3rd party cookie or tracker. If you have no legitimate interest in doing something with the data, you must ask the user first.
Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
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Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard to accept because many, many people won't agree with you and do give a fuck.
To anyone that doesn't agree with me, please show me your rooted android phone that has no popular apps installed that collect any data, and doesn't use a sim card. Because if you say you give a fuck about privacy, and use a modern android phone with OEM rom or an iPhone, you either don't understand what privacy is and shouldn't be talking about it in the first place, or you are a hypocrite.
I don't live in a heavily fortified home only accessible through a drawbridge but still give a fuck about the privacy of my little city flat that you could probably enter with a heavy kick.
Modern society enables miracles.
Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#113I use Matomo on Wordpress. Turned of cookie based tracking. It means sometimes a revisting visitor can not be discriminated from a new one. I don't care. But, now he is saying, I can enable the cookie if I want, without needing the consent banner? And what about a privacy page? Indeed it does make whipping up a blog or so more complex. Although I usually use Hugo of WP, keep them vanilla: Now cookies required for jus…
>But, now he is saying, I can enable the cookie if I want, without needing the consent banner?
No? It's clearly not an essential cookie considering your site is currently working without it.
Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#114>So stop blaming "the EU" and ask yourself if this is the internet we want. ...Yes, thats exactly the internet "we" want. I don't get why it so hard to accept that people simply dgaf about privacy, and much prefer free products online paid for by ads. And there is nothing wrong with that, because for those that actually care about privacy, there are plenty of tools.
I don't understand why it isn't solved in this way: You get a banner on your first visit, with a list "here are all the cookies and ways how we use your data, if you are not fine with it, please leave this website" This should be an option for small private websites (different rules for FB, Google and alike), because no one forces you to use a site, same as "my house, my rules"
This would be explicitly forbidden by GDPR. You either don’t serve EU customers or allow them to opt out/in. You can’t degrade or deny service based on consent.
Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Businesses: want to track users and collect their data with reckless abandon Businesses: implement rampant dark patterns to trick people into accepting tracking and data collection Businesses: flood the internet with inane, obnoxious and blatantly illegal cookie dialogs ... 4ad: I blame the EU (Hint: show me where GDPR says anything about cookies)
Most internet businesses need tracking to survive, so it's more like either you click past a cookie banner or you don't get to see the content at all.
> Most internet businesses need tracking to survive
Most criminal gangs need to steal/rob/etc to survive too.
Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#116GitHub got rid of their banners in 2020: https://github.blog/2020-12-17-no-cookie-for-you/ I believe there is also a lot of "cargo culting" where site admins copy what everyone else is doing without understanding the legal background.
That’s what happens when you add regulations to an industry of small players who can’t afford to spend time or money in understanding these things
Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#117Both CloudFlare and Jetpack on WordPress insert a tracking cookie as a part of using their service, right? (I may be wrong, things may have changed)
For a lot of folks, that's what they have to use, otherwise delivering the page resource-wise isn't viable. Ergo, they need those banner popups to be in compliance, right?
Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's GDPR as in General Data Protection Regulation.
My guess is they are a native speaker of some Romance language, and that is the acronym in their native language, perhaps French based on username and what little I know of French.
Ah the French. In the great words of Samuel L Jackson "English motherfucker do you speak it".
Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#119>So stop blaming "the EU" and ask yourself if this is the internet we want. ...Yes, thats exactly the internet "we" want. I don't get why it so hard to accept that people simply dgaf about privacy, and much prefer free products online paid for by ads. And there is nothing wrong with that, because for those that actually care about privacy, there are plenty of tools.
I don't understand why it isn't solved in this way: You get a banner on your first visit, with a list "here are all the cookies and ways how we use your data, if you are not fine with it, please leave this website" This should be an option for small private websites (different rules for FB, Google and alike), because no one forces you to use a site, same as "my house, my rules"
The issue is that there is too much money to be left on the table advertising wise, so instead you are going to see every way to get around anything GDPR that is going to progressively shit up the internet.
In the end, you can be tracked without cookies using fingerprinting, and AI will make this job easier and easier. So the banner is pretty much irrelevant technologically. You will also see companies that make popular browsers include features in the browsers for advertising purposes that will make cookies irrelevant - i.e you give consent otherwise the browser doesn't work at all or on websites with relevant content.
Best thing to do is really just to let it all go IMO. Its really not a big deal. Between things like VPN and all the privacy tweaking you can do in Firefox, if someone wants privacy they can have it.
Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways
#120GitHub got rid of their banners in 2020: https://github.blog/2020-12-17-no-cookie-for-you/ I believe there is also a lot of "cargo culting" where site admins copy what everyone else is doing without understanding the legal background.
Indeed. I have many times mentioned this with business/product owners in my organization - but it is a nasty mix of complicated laws and regulation, pressure from legal, and a mentality of risk-minimizing. I usually only mention it in passing because fighting the requirement (which often is not actually needed) would take all my time and several weeks/months. I dont really care in the end.