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Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by fredoliveira »

concerned_ wrote: post #84

The old boys club which has been outsourcing programmer for 20 years to India figured out that they can just fake it since nobody has complained yet. And before software engineers unionize they came up with some snake oil to put us in our place, maybe try to force us back into offices, or just eliminate us. Nobody can deny that Sam Altman and Bill Gates have been trying to "reduce costs" for a long time. The startups…

> The startups with devs in portugal, costa rica, Mexico, Spain, the Ukraine, India, China, anyplace where they can pay 5 dollars for a day's work.

I can speak to Portugal and Spain at least, and there's no chance you could ever get people in either of those to work for you at $5/day. You'd be laughed out of the room/conference call. And I'm pretty sure that's true for the rest of the list too.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by badwolf »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #47
NalNezumi wrote: post #18

Personally I love this new AI voice content booms. My favorite is the AI presidents discussing/playing/rating stuff [1], Attenborough narrating warhammer [2]. While slightly silly, I think in future people might start to take internet way less serious when you can literally make things up. Which I think is a good trend. People getting depressed or so consumed by the internet culture that they loose all interest in th…

People have always made shit up on the internet. Even prior to Photoshop, the first rule of the net is don't trust anything you read.

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by InitialLastName »

actionablefiber wrote: post #69
evan_ wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Television presenters and interview subjects are coached to answer questions like that, repeating the question before answering it- I wonder if that's where ChatGPT picked up that particular habit.

It seems sensible to me, as a defense against someone taking your answer out of context and splicing it with a different question to make you look bad.

It also helps editors later be more flexible with the format... if someone wants to reuse the insight you taped in a new medium (say, they want to put it in a documentary) they might want to have you saying the whole thing rather than to provide the context of "there is also an interviewer".

The Song Exploder podcast does this very well; each episode is recorded as an interview between the host and the artist, but because the artist is answering the questions with a restatement of the question, they can edit it so that it just sounds like the artist talking through their project (you almost never hear the host ask a question).

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by nirav72 »

pharrington wrote: post #114
NalNezumi wrote: post #18

Personally I love this new AI voice content booms. My favorite is the AI presidents discussing/playing/rating stuff [1], Attenborough narrating warhammer [2]. While slightly silly, I think in future people might start to take internet way less serious when you can literally make things up. Which I think is a good trend. People getting depressed or so consumed by the internet culture that they loose all interest in th…

I agree that without massive safeguards, it is only going to become harder to discern between fact and fiction. The problem is that people must be able to discern between fact and fiction in order to live healthy lives. Reacting to AI by becoming laissez-faire about your information intake is just one more way for people to disconnect from reality. I think a good analogy is how technological advances made forging phy…

>without massive safeguards

How do you even set safeguards for this?

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by misiti3780 »

game_the0ry wrote: post #28

There is a need for a solution to this problem -- something like public / private key encryption or "more advanced social security" number to verify authenticity of a source via digital signature. There is a business to be made there.

bitcoin fixes this.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by nickthegreek »

gavinhoward wrote: post #95
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't mind my saying so, I think it's your point of view that's naive. OP is talking about a large cultural shift, the type that skeptics said was impossible back at the advent of the web. The orthodox opinion was that the web was a fad and we'd all be reading newspapers and using coin-operated phones forever. The scale of change that he’s describing — where the internet ceases to become a source-of-truth — wo…

The reason newspapers shifted away from being core is because there were other communication media to replace them. There aren't such replacements for the Internet.

I dont think we are talking about replacing "the internet", but replacing fb/twitter/insta with many many more micro communities that might be a bit more gated for entry due the cheapness of spam. These types of communities flourished in the 80s-2000.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by nirav72 »

NalNezumi wrote: post #18

Personally I love this new AI voice content booms. My favorite is the AI presidents discussing/playing/rating stuff [1], Attenborough narrating warhammer [2]. While slightly silly, I think in future people might start to take internet way less serious when you can literally make things up. Which I think is a good trend. People getting depressed or so consumed by the internet culture that they loose all interest in th…

Yikes. That David Attenborough narrating Warhammer 40K was pretty damn convincing. If I wasn't aware of the context - I would probably thought it was indeed him narrating.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by yucky »

putcalltheta wrote: post #76
game_the0ry wrote: post #28

There is a need for a solution to this problem -- something like public / private key encryption or "more advanced social security" number to verify authenticity of a source via digital signature. There is a business to be made there.

AI researchers and companies need to starting asking themselves: just because we can does it mean we should? The societal implications and risks of this technology are enormous. This could lead to an erosion of publc trust in audio and video evidence. Imagine someone creating something that gives dangerous medical advice using Fauci's likeness? Or giving the worst politicians an excuse to say that something they actu…

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Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by z0r »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #119
superfrank wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think in future people might start to take internet way less serious when you can literally make things up I've been starting to think this way as well. It feels like we're seeing something similar to the way that mass spam calls drastically changed the way people use the phones to the point where people don't recognize a phone number, they just don't pick up anymore. As the ratio of garbage goes up, people will…

> a more local, trust-less internet like we had in the 90s and early 00s I don't recognize this description of the Internet from any time after 1985 onward.

This might just be a way of aging ourselves. I do feel that Facebook blatantly flipped the norm that you used a pseudonym and kept personal information private when communicating (much less publishing) online - that's the norm I grew up with in the 90s and even the early 00s.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by aldarisbm »

oh_sigh wrote: post #104
game_the0ry wrote: post #28

There is a need for a solution to this problem -- something like public / private key encryption or "more advanced social security" number to verify authenticity of a source via digital signature. There is a business to be made there.

Why wouldn't the solution be just check the canonical source for the content? IE go to joe rogan's spotify page and see if the content is linked there.

because mis/disinformation is the real problem here. We will be seeing a lot in the media and when 90% of consumers don't bother to check the source, it _will_ skew a lot of things.
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