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Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

jsnell wrote: post #69
adamors wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What other company has a literal graveyard of products? https://killedbygoogle.com

Amazon and Microsoft would have graveyeards just as large, if compiled via the same criteria. You know all that shit Google gets about chat apps? Microsoft has also launched and killed more than a dozen of them. Jeff Bezos used to brag about how many failed products they launched and killed. So it comes back to the question that ed_mercer had: why is there such a double standard? Why does somebody obsessively maintai…

> Microsoft has also launched and killed more than a dozen of them

Microsoft is religious about maintaining backward compatibility and support. They also have some concept of service, which makes cancellations smoother. (All this makes product development aware of the costs of abandonment. Google doesn’t have that in its culture, and it’s a constant problem with hiring from them now.)

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by qumpis »

bigyikes wrote: post #6

Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?

Why would Bard get axed? Or do you mean Bard in its current form? Last I heard they mentioned about rolling out higher-scale models, since apparently current models were 'efficient' ones, to see if the demand can be met, according to them.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by imgabe »

jsnell wrote: post #72
imgabe wrote: post #63

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Other companies kill projects when they’ve clearly failed and basically nobody is using. Google will kill things that are moderately successful and people are dependent on, but they aren’t a blockbuster success that makes a difference compared to their ad revenue. But mostly we’ve just never forgiven them for killing Google Reader. And we never will.

Which product on this list do you think was "moderately successful" and had "people depend on it"?

It's not about this particular list. People have been burned multiple times in the past by Google so they're going to be bitter and jump all over them whenever they cancel anything.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by orra »

jzb wrote: post #50
ed_mercer wrote: post #28

Why does Google get grilled so badly for pulling products? Don’t other companies do the exact same thing, and isn’t it their full right to abandon projects when it no longer makes sense?

They have a history of pulling projects that people like, and seem capricious / chaotic about it. How many different chat / messaging platforms has Google put out in the last ten years, for example? Other companies cancel things, but I’m not aware of any that seem to do so as often. Google started developing a reputation for this more than a decade ago and has just kept doing it if not even doing it more often! Is it…

> How many different chat / messaging platforms has Google put out in the last ten years, for example?

This is a good point. They don't iterate on products, at least that's my obvious perception. Instead, they launch competitor products, so in the end they end up pulling more products.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by iLoveOncall »

rcme wrote: post #51
iLoveOncall wrote: post #24

The list is a bit dishonest. Google Code Jam was not a product, and it was an event that was a net loss in terms of revenue, which is hard to justify maintaining when you are cutting thousands of jobs. Google Street View is part of Google Maps, the post even says so. Google OnHub is a one time hardware product. Nobody is blaming Nintendo for killing the Gameboy Color when it stopped producing it. I don't see how any…

Regarding OnHub: > Then in January 2023, the company rendered the product almost completely useless by disabling most of its features. I think GameBoy Color still works today? Also, the list is missing Nest Secure.

The battery in cartridges has expired in the vast majority of the cases which means you can't save anymore. I don't see any outrage towards Nintendo for that.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by rippercushions »

illiarian wrote: post #62
criddell wrote: post #48

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> If Google had lost interest they’d have no problem shutting it down by now It does feel like they’ve lost a lot of interest in Android. It’s too big for Google to just close, but I could see them selling it. If that happens, hopefully it’s to a Microsoft but chances are they will screw us all and sell it to Oracle or Xiaomi. But there are a lot of things that will die before Android or Fuschia. Here’s a list of 270…

> but I could see them selling it. IMO they are aiming to replace Android with Fuchsia. Because they have full control of Fuchsia, and so-so control of Android. They don't need to sell Android. They can just let it die on its own in AOSP which is already nonviable without Google's services.

The massive Chinese Android ecosystem operates entirely without Google services.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by jiggawatts »

zztop44 wrote: post #71
ghaff wrote: post #31

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Put in concrete terms, do you want to be one of the two engineers exiled to maintaining Reader because you pissed someone off to keep the geeks off Google’s back?

For $400k a year I’d be okay with it yeah

I'd do it for $300K!

Anyone from Google want to check my post history and reach out to someone able and willing to do boring maintenance?

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by gt2 »

FinnKuhn wrote: post #68
gondaloof wrote: post #56

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You could say the same about Google Earth on mobile. Do you need a separate app? I’m honestly surprised it still exists.

wait, how is this comment already in the article?

Noticed that too-- happened within about 5 mins of the comment.

Perhaps the poster is the author of article, and possibly the user gondaloof (they are both green accounts).

Or maybe the author of the article is just paying attention to HN.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by pqb »

remirk wrote: post #29

The dedicated Streetview app was finally killed because streetview is already integrated in regular google maps. To me, that seems like a good reason to discontinue the dedicated app. I don't get the reasoning behind this article. Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree. The article feels like blogspam riding on the hypetrain of people disliking when googl…

> As [this](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35553634) comment on HN pointed out, this was a good move by Google.

You can feel fulfilled as an HN user. Your comment was cited (linked) in the article.

Note: I am not an author of the article :)

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by belter »

detourdog wrote: post #67
LeBit wrote: post #34

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Google Search is in great perils because of ChatGPT.

Google search is in great perils because of lack of quality search results.

Still broken after two years...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28224730

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