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Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by ghaff »

chongli wrote: post #19
bigyikes wrote: post #6

Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?

I've never worked at Google so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Everything I've heard (mostly on HN) about working there is that there are simply too many perverse incentives to abandon products. People get promoted for creating exciting new products and then leave those products behind at their new position. Up-and-comers are also incentivized to do the same thing. There seems to be no appetite whatsoever for h…

Put in concrete terms, do you want to be one of the two engineers exiled to maintaining Reader because you pissed someone off to keep the geeks off Google’s back?

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by jve »

blibble wrote: post #11
manojlds wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pixel is doing better than ever though.

did they manage convince to samsung to fix the critical vulnerabilities that require you to turn off your mobile data yet? otherwise you can be pwned by a phone call https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-inte... phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already

Misinformation.

> require you to turn off your mobile data yet

Wifi calling and VoLTE is not mobile data.

> phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already

Samsung supports updates for multiple years. Mid 2022 gets you previous samsung model - S22, where S23 was released this year 2023.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by LeBit »

onion2k wrote: post #23
bigyikes wrote: post #6

Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?

It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. I think the 'problem' is that reputation damage doesn't really impact Google's revenue. They get the overwhelming majority of their money from publishing adverts, with a significant amount on their own properties (search and YouTube). It really doesn't matter if a bunch of gamers decide Stadia screwe…

Google Search is in great perils because of ChatGPT.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by adamors »

ed_mercer wrote: post #28

Why does Google get grilled so badly for pulling products? Don’t other companies do the exact same thing, and isn’t it their full right to abandon projects when it no longer makes sense?

What other company has a literal graveyard of products? https://killedbygoogle.com

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by izacus »

adamors wrote: post #35
ed_mercer wrote: post #28

Why does Google get grilled so badly for pulling products? Don’t other companies do the exact same thing, and isn’t it their full right to abandon projects when it no longer makes sense?

What other company has a literal graveyard of products? https://killedbygoogle.com

Pretty much every single corporation of that size and age. And many startups too (they call it "pivoting" though - it's not like startup workers complaining over Google here are first in line to maintain failing products forever).

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by coremoff »

blibble wrote: post #11
manojlds wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pixel is doing better than ever though.

did they manage convince to samsung to fix the critical vulnerabilities that require you to turn off your mobile data yet? otherwise you can be pwned by a phone call https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-inte... phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already

those bugs were fixed in early March

https://source.android.com/docs/security/bulletin/pixel/2023...

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by izacus »

blibble wrote: post #11
manojlds wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pixel is doing better than ever though.

did they manage convince to samsung to fix the critical vulnerabilities that require you to turn off your mobile data yet? otherwise you can be pwned by a phone call https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-inte... phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already

What you wrote is full of disinformation and FUD. Please do better.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by snapdeus »

LeBit wrote: post #34
onion2k wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. I think the 'problem' is that reputation damage doesn't really impact Google's revenue. They get the overwhelming majority of their money from publishing adverts, with a significant amount on their own properties (search and YouTube). It really doesn't matter if a bunch of gamers decide Stadia screwe…

Google Search is in great perils because of ChatGPT.

Agreed, it's all up to open AI to bring them down,

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by infinitezest »

ed_mercer wrote: post #28

Why does Google get grilled so badly for pulling products? Don’t other companies do the exact same thing, and isn’t it their full right to abandon projects when it no longer makes sense?

Google has the right to create or kill share products it wants. Consumers are not obligated to like it, refrain from complaining, or to keep adopting their products.
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