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Meme group on Discord is focus of uproar over leaked Pentagon documents

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I think the accusation that 4chan is a far-right message board is accurate, and I believe that accusation can be supported by showing that 4chan's explicitly stated rules can be used to plausibly deny this accusation, while demonstrating that they're are not enforced (or selectively enforced). 4chan's Rule 3: "You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Troll posts, Racism, Anthropomorphic ("furry") pornog…

It’s interesting that the website is considered far-right simply because it doesn’t ban far-right posters. The website isn’t explicitly for right-wingers, but by allowing them to post on the website that’s what it’s become.

More specifically, it allows far righters to post against its rules, but enforces them against other groups. It's hardly surprising then.

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post #130

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Unprobable speculation? Ever heard of the final solution? FFS...

I would strongly recommend reading The Third Reich trilogy by Richard J. Evans. Most people have a rather propagandistic view of the war and this series is easily accessible for the layman and does a really good job at laying out what happened and when and why.

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#187
post #116

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> free expression requires absolutely no limits But doesn't it? Usually it's the authoritarians, dictators and generally "bad guys" who need to limit speech, censor, burn books, etc.

Society isn’t a system we can reason about in absolutes. The spirit of the law says that you can’t tell “fire!” in a crowded building, I think we collectively agree that there are limitations on free speech and we’re fortunate to let the courts map out the nuance rather than a mob or a dictator.

> The spirit of the law says that you can’t tell “fire!” in a crowded building

Of course you can. Especially if there's a fire.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_the...

Re: Meme group on Discord is focus of uproar over leaked Pentagon documents

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post #24

I think the accusation that 4chan is a far-right message board is accurate, and I believe that accusation can be supported by showing that 4chan's explicitly stated rules can be used to plausibly deny this accusation, while demonstrating that they're are not enforced (or selectively enforced). 4chan's Rule 3: "You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Troll posts, Racism, Anthropomorphic ("furry") pornog…

>Rules are often even selectively enforced, sculpting narratives that moderator cliques decide on (see /pol/ for example).

I can tell you for a fact that the large majority of the mods despise /pol/. As for rules not being enforced, if a post is not reported it likely won't be acted upon.

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#189
post #48

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You can also be a communist. You can also be an open source maximalist. You can also be a gay dog furry. You can also be trans. You can also be extremely autistic. It is good to have a place where people can exist as themselves and be exposed to different ideas. I would wager that most people who go there are far more accepting than the general population.

It's ok to be a communist, it's ok to use open source software, it's ok to be gay, a furry, trans, or autistic. It's not ok to be a white nationalist. /b/ and other 4chan boards do not ban white nationalists.

It's definitely not OK to a be communist. One of the most hurtful ideologies out there. Proven again and again. It's definitely not OK to be a fascist or an islamist either.

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post #106

NYT gets so much mileage out of “researchers say” and “experts say” yet they never cite anyone

> Dark humor about race or ideology can eventually shape the beliefs of impressionable young people, and innocuous memes can be co-opted into symbols of hatred, researchers say. Immediately following this paragraph is a quote from a researcher: > “If you’re a young man with no prospects hanging out on 4chan, you’re definitely on some Discords and probably some pretty dark Discords,” said Dale Beran, a lecturer at Mor…

>“It Came from Something Awful: How a Toxic Troll Army Accidentally Memed Donald Trump into Office.”

CNN and reddit arguably did more than 4chan to get trump elected. They couldn't shut up about him and they have way more reach than 4chan.

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