>"Losers. That’s who the U.S. government really has to fear.” The New York Times has published, by my count, 15 articles on this leak in the past 7 days.
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Meme group on Discord is focus of uproar over leaked Pentagon documents
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I don't care. 4chan is one of the few large forums remaining on the internet where there's no downvoting, no flagging, and no dang-esque tone policers. I would be much more sad to see it go away than this place.
Yeah I guess that's what it really comes down to. I am willing to make you sad to make it harder for nazis to organize and recruit.
If someone is stupid enough to fall for the lackluster logic of Neo-Nazis then I see that as a problem with our public education, not with the moderation policy of a website. Sure, enforcing "correct" speech at all times could potentially lead to more harmony in society, but I would much, much rather invest in empowering people to think critically for themselves. Many are already able to resist the persuasiveness of propaganda, ads, conspiracy theories, and extremist groups that are all around us today. Teach this skill of resistance instead of trying to baby-proof society.
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> much of what's posted on 4chan is ironic, deliberately inflammatory This hasn't been plausible, much less true, for 10 years. I don't know how anyone can look at, for example, Payton Gendron's manifesto and say it's ironic. Were the bullets he fired ironic as well? There is an entire generation of users, who are probably the bulk of users now, who were never in on the "joke" (if there ever was one).
Citing one crazy person using a platform doesn’t make your argument coherent. How many shooters have live streamed on facebook?
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Yeah I guess that's what it really comes down to. I am willing to make you sad to make it harder for nazis to organize and recruit.
A true advocate of free speech would defend someone's right to be a nazi even if they vehemently disagree with them.
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You ever hear that joke "if you're wearing a nazi costume it's not a costume?" Ironic far right shitposts are just far right shitposts.
I don't care. 4chan is one of the few large forums remaining on the internet where there's no downvoting, no flagging, and no dang-esque tone policers. I would be much more sad to see it go away than this place.
Glad to see some others around here call out dang for being a tone policer, and a bad one at that.
He constantly butts in where he doesn't belong, to claim that good discussion is "flame wars". HN truly is overly moderated and would benefit from less heavy handed moderation.
Re: Meme group on Discord is focus of uproar over leaked Pentagon documents
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I don't care. 4chan is one of the few large forums remaining on the internet where there's no downvoting, no flagging, and no dang-esque tone policers. I would be much more sad to see it go away than this place.
Yeah I guess that's what it really comes down to. I am willing to make you sad to make it harder for nazis to organize and recruit.
And then all you have to do is define "everyone who disagrees with me is a nazi" and you've got not only full-blown censorship but also the moral high-ground!
I know, I know for the sake of appearances we don't define everyone who disagrees with us as a nazi, that would be too obvious (although we still do alot).
We describe the broad spectrum of perfectly main-stream, otherwise unremarkable views (but that disagree with us) as "nazi supporters", dog-whistlers etc.
Too easy.
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Someone might say the same thing about trans people. Should I be extremely uncomfortable talking to a trans person? Of course not. Many people think I should though. As for white nationalists, when engaging in discussion with someone you disagree with you have the opportunity to change their mind. We're all human. We won't always agree. I'm happy to meet everybody as human beings.
Being racist and being trans are not equivalent...
Who said they were?
Re: Meme group on Discord is focus of uproar over leaked Pentagon documents
#98NYT gets so much mileage out of “researchers say” and “experts say” yet they never cite anyone
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What is it that you feel like you gain from being exposed to white nationalism? Being unfazed by horrors isn't a virtue, having scarred your soul like this isn't something to be proud of. You should be uncomfortable talking to a nazi! You should be more than uncomfortable!
Someone might say the same thing about trans people. Should I be extremely uncomfortable talking to a trans person? Of course not. Many people think I should though. As for white nationalists, when engaging in discussion with someone you disagree with you have the opportunity to change their mind. We're all human. We won't always agree. I'm happy to meet everybody as human beings.
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It's ok to be a communist, it's ok to use open source software, it's ok to be gay, a furry, trans, or autistic. It's not ok to be a white nationalist. /b/ and other 4chan boards do not ban white nationalists.
No, it is NOT ok to be a communist. Communists and white nationalists are morally equivalent, though communism to date has a much higher body count than white nationalism and their methods of execution and torture have on balance been more savage and more brutal.
We stopped white Nationalisms. If not, Communism's death toll would be a joke in comparison.