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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by nailer »

waboremo wrote: post #660
nailer wrote: post #491

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone providing money to a media org has some amount of editorial control. The newer version is more specific but it doesn’t mean state affiliated is inaccurate.

It does mean it's inaccurate because state affiliated is already a specific term to describe editorial control. I don't know how else to put it to you, maybe an example. You can publish a podcast or article or whatever on NPR right now about how much you hate the current administration and want them replaced. You cannot do that with state affiliated media, if CGTN tomorrow did the same, the state has the direct abili…

Aren’t you assuming bad faith by claiming that Twitter is somehow conspiring against NPR by labelling the state sponsored media as being state sponsored?

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by relaxing »

AlbertCory wrote: post #819
relaxing wrote: post #813

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Here you go: https://www.npr.org/2021/11/25/1059262052/a-u-s-weapons-sale... Criticism of the DNC specifically (and Biden): https://www.npr.org/2022/12/08/1141499760/concerns-arise-ove...

That's really the best you can do? One story that amplifies NPR's dislike of Saudi Arabia ("Yemen" is hardly the centerpiece of Biden foreign policy), and another claiming there's dislike of the Democratic primary calendar?

They’re clearly not afraid to be critical of the party or administration.

“Centerpiece of foreign policy” is not a well defined term, but we can try to evaluate their coverage anyway- https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+centerpiece+of+foreign...

Out of the first 9 articles, 4 have would I would call a critical slant. And Bob’s your uncle.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by nailer »

ramses0 wrote: post #769
yossarian1408 wrote: post #502

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Twitter, SpaceX and Tesla are not newspapers/publishers. The reason for labelling news organisations' government affiliations is for the viewer/reader to understand that there may or may not be bias, and where the funding is coming from. If NPR's government contributions are embarrassing for the organisation, it might be best for them to forgo that funding. Additionally, if there's no influence/bias, then why does it…

"Sea Lion" comment/question. It's a distraction. http://wondermark.com/1k62/

> > Why does it matter that their funding is disclosed to the reader?

> It's a distraction.

Categorizing an argument doesn't provide justification for that categorization.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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hitpointdrew wrote: post #537
JohnFen wrote: post #255

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> The fact they take any money at all from the gov makes them sate-affilated. In that case, very nearly every business (including mom and pop shops) is "state affiliated" and one has to ask why NPR is being singled out for this.

> In that case, very nearly every business (including mom and pop shops) How so? In what capacity are “most businesses” getting federal money? Tax credits/breaks don’t count, that is the companies money that they don’t have to pay, not the federal government directly funding the business.

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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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just-ok wrote: post #741
d23 wrote: post #716

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NPR is not nor has it ever been state-affiliated media in any reasonable sense of the word. Is it a full stop, bald-face lie.

Has NPR evolved since its inception? Sure. But "nor has it ever been" is... misleading at best: > Funding for NPR comes from [...other sources...] and annual grants from the publicly-funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Hmm, let's look into said Corporation: > On February 26, 1970, the CPB formed National Public Radio (NPR) > The CPB's annual budget is composed almost entirely of an annual appropriation from C…

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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by nailer »

fundad wrote: post #625
yossarian1408 wrote: post #502

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter, SpaceX and Tesla are not newspapers/publishers. The reason for labelling news organisations' government affiliations is for the viewer/reader to understand that there may or may not be bias, and where the funding is coming from. If NPR's government contributions are embarrassing for the organisation, it might be best for them to forgo that funding. Additionally, if there's no influence/bias, then why does it…

SpaceX and Tesla are not newspapers/publishers. Twitter is a media company, a publisher with an editorial voice that we have to assume is independent from the Saudi government or any government funding the owner's other businesses.

I'd be fairly happy for Twitter to declare their own potential conflicts of interest.

That doesn't mean Twitter shouldn't correctly label state funded media.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by lowkey »

d23 wrote: post #716
yossarian1408 wrote: post #502

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter, SpaceX and Tesla are not newspapers/publishers. The reason for labelling news organisations' government affiliations is for the viewer/reader to understand that there may or may not be bias, and where the funding is coming from. If NPR's government contributions are embarrassing for the organisation, it might be best for them to forgo that funding. Additionally, if there's no influence/bias, then why does it…

NPR is not nor has it ever been state-affiliated media in any reasonable sense of the word. Is it a full stop, bald-face lie.

NPR is listed as government-funded media, not state-affiliated media [0]

A large part of their funding comes from congress -> corporation for public broadcasting -> local NPR affiliates -> NPR.

It is indirect funding, yes, but they are very much funded by the US government.

[0] https://mobile.twitter.com/NPR

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by lowkey »

detaro wrote: post #799
codeddesign wrote: post #797

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Based on what criteria? NPR is specifically in the congressional budget by law..yes, we have a law to keep them funded by the US govt. Is the criteria money? coercion? backdoor-deals? bias? As per Twitter’s criteria, it’s money.

Is it? "State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution." Control/Coercion seem more important, especially since Twitter has a separate category for media with government funding. (cf https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/state-affilia... f…

Correction: Twitter lists NPR as government-funded media, not state affiliated media [0]

[0] https://mobile.twitter.com/NPR

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by dragonwriter »

yossarian1408 wrote: post #502
bagels wrote: post #317

Should Twitter itself get a state sponsored label for getting concessions from San Francisco on their headquarters? https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/S-F-controller-hails-... Should Elon's account (or SpaceX or Telsa) have the same label because of their significant government funding? It's hard to see this as anything but silly politics games.

Twitter, SpaceX and Tesla are not newspapers/publishers. The reason for labelling news organisations' government affiliations is for the viewer/reader to understand that there may or may not be bias, and where the funding is coming from. If NPR's government contributions are embarrassing for the organisation, it might be best for them to forgo that funding. Additionally, if there's no influence/bias, then why does it…

> Twitter, SpaceX and Tesla are not newspapers/publishers.

Twitter is a publisher, though (because of Section 230) they are not liable as a publisher for most of what they publish under US law.

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