The NYT characterizes 4chan as a far-right message board, which is ridiculous. I mean, if giving the finger to pretty much everything is considered far-right, then what's considered far-left? Fundamentalism?
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#12The NYT characterizes 4chan as a far-right message board, which is ridiculous. I mean, if giving the finger to pretty much everything is considered far-right, then what's considered far-left? Fundamentalism?
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> then what's considered far-left 4chan. The most notorious boards feel anarchist and were very anti-globalist long before it was fashionable. But as you implied, 4chan as a whole is not homogenous.
Anarchism and anti-globalism were far-left values like 20 years ago. Right now the left and far-left give strong "conform" vibes.
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Nazis use the internet. You use the internet. Therefore, you're a nazi.
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> then what's considered far-left 4chan. The most notorious boards feel anarchist and were very anti-globalist long before it was fashionable. But as you implied, 4chan as a whole is not homogenous.
Anarchism and anti-globalism were far-left values like 20 years ago. Right now the left and far-left give strong "conform" vibes.
Of course, the boogeymen borne of tribalistic (politico-cultural) battlegrounds mean that those on the broad right look leftward and see people calling themselves 'leftists' dragging the classical left tenets toward strange, centrist-ized, often authoritarian lines and assume without further evidence that this applies to the left generally.
I promise you there's still plenty of folks who competently understand the labels they choose to inhabit.
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> then what's considered far-left 4chan. The most notorious boards feel anarchist and were very anti-globalist long before it was fashionable. But as you implied, 4chan as a whole is not homogenous.
Anarchism and anti-globalism were far-left values like 20 years ago. Right now the left and far-left give strong "conform" vibes.
I disagree that, within the left and far-left, the anarchist or anti-globalist segments have recently retreated. OTOH, in the United States, the old (peaking around 1990) overlapping center-right neoliberal globalist faction forming the moderate wings of both major parties has faded in the Republican Party, leading the remaining segment of it – which is the dominant faction of the Democratic Party – to be called “left” (and sometimes “far left”) by Republican partisans.
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Guilt by association makes no sense… would this also apply to eg, communists?
I can't say about communists, as there are so few around these days.
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Nazis use the internet. You use the internet. Therefore, you're a nazi.
ex: "Nazis eat food, you eat food, therefore you're a Nazi."
Doing something that all people do and are expected to do, on either side of the conflict, does not actually make a difference. Being a complete and utter jackass makes the difference.
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Guilt by association makes no sense… would this also apply to eg, communists?