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Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by dzhiurgis »

rileymat2 wrote: post #44
nonethewiser wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d pay more for NO firmware in my washing machine. This is beyond my desire to just keep things simple. What is the point of washing machine you can control remotely? You have to put clothes in at the start and take them out at the end. It offers no convenience.

I disagree. I would like a machine that I could start when I want, I don't like when I start a load before leaving the day then having it sit in the damp until I get home to put it in the dryer. I would prefer to be able to start it an hour before I was going home so it would be ready for transfer to the dryer then. I also would like phone notifications, it is sort of in a corner of the basement so I don't hear the a…

It’s nice, I’m with you, but if your machine have tiny screen with remaining time (yes it’s not very accurate) - “hey siri set timer for 90minutes” works fine enough.

Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by temporal828 »

nemo44x wrote: post #111
temporal828 wrote: post #102

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> But I think many efficient machines do a poor job at cleaning. Not in my experience. A good high efficiency front loader tends to get the clothes cleaner - and notably with much less wear than conventional top loaders. The money savings also come from clothing replacement as well. Water use aside it's just better technology. Complexity is an issue, but I've had good luck by staying brands and models proven for reli…

The problem with front loaders, and it's a fatal flaw unfortunately, is they unavoidably have mold and mildew problems due to the design. This makes them an invalid option in my opinion as I don't want mold and mildew spores in my home. They also begin to stink and your clothing can pick it up over time as it gets worse. The other problem is many top loaders today are garbage. In order to be effective they do need a…

> is they unavoidably have mold and mildew problems due to the design.

Keep the door open. The water evaporates. Never had a problem avoiding mold.

Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by temporal828 »

mauvehaus wrote: post #106
temporal828 wrote: post #102

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> But I think many efficient machines do a poor job at cleaning. Not in my experience. A good high efficiency front loader tends to get the clothes cleaner - and notably with much less wear than conventional top loaders. The money savings also come from clothing replacement as well. Water use aside it's just better technology. Complexity is an issue, but I've had good luck by staying brands and models proven for reli…

As long as we're swapping anecdotes, I spent a day cutting MDF for a project and came home just covered in fine brown dust. The place we rented before we moved had an LG HE front-loader. My blue pants remained brown from the dust for a couple of cycles. My carpenter neighbor has had the same experience with HE machines and has gone to a Speed Queen top-loader. He finds it much more satisfactory as well.

You don't have to go by anecdotes, you can go by published testing then. Dust may be a special case, and perhaps certain occupations may be better off with a top loader for work clothes, but for everyday stains and body secretions front loaders work better and wear out clothes slower.

I'm not in the anti top-loader Speed Queen cult at all... but it is that on the internet, a cult (when I hear things like mold is "unavoidable", and basically you'd have to be an idiot to consider anything other than a Speed Queen top loader that is my conclusion) -- but most people are simply better served with a front loader.

Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by 4ggr0 »

eur0pa wrote: post #119
4ggr0 wrote: post #98

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Notifications when a cycle is done, time-based starting of cycles (put the clothes in the machine when you leave, but only start the cycle so that it's done when you're back, or just manually start a cycle from your phone while you're away), control your washing machine with voice assistants, maybe a few more things.

That sounds like something a simple timer would be able to achieve. To each their own, but the only thing that is connected to the internet in my home is the phone, and the PCs.

Yeah my washing machine is not smart either and I don't mind that it's dumb, but I get why people like them.

If I had one I would of course add it to a secured VLAN, and not my regular network :D

Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

joaonmatos wrote: post #118
MisterTea wrote: post #107

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> The first, and most obvious, reason is that getting your phone and (all) your appliances on the same network is non-trivial. What other networks do homes have? Every WiFi ISP router I have used provides a single network and DHCP server. Perhaps some routers provide both a public and private WiFi and the consumer doesn't understand which one they should pick but that is the fault of the ISP. > Sometimes the washing…

Many cases I knew, people would have several repeaters and extra routers to extend coverage in big houses, and not set it up correctly in PA/Bridge mode, so peripheral network devices would be locked behind in a separate NAT’ed subnet.

Can we at least consider that the solution to poorly designed technology is not more poorly designed technology?

If users can't set up routers and extenders properly, that may say more about the designers of the routers than the people using them.

I'm nominally an expert user, but a lot of these products make me WTAF regularly.

Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by [deleted] »

actionfromafar wrote: post #36
nonethewiser wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d pay more for NO firmware in my washing machine. This is beyond my desire to just keep things simple. What is the point of washing machine you can control remotely? You have to put clothes in at the start and take them out at the end. It offers no convenience.

The only thing I could agree with is if it started at at time when the spot-price of electricity was low.

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Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by hammyhavoc »

belugacat wrote: post #6

Great hack, but I’m sure any engineer worth their salt winces at the thought of a machine in their home roundtripping through far away 3rd party servers (I guess they’re the manufacturer’s, but if it’s hardware I own in my house those servers are 3rd party to me) just to notify them of a numerical value when they’re sitting literally 10 meters away (I live in the countryside and experience internet interruptions not…

I don't think it would be that niche given how big an industry home automation has already become. The general public generally don't know what they want until you put it front of them. I hadn't thought about that for a kitchen appliance, but yes, I would buy one, absolutely, that appeals in a huge way.

If you did start that kind of a company, I'd love to be made aware of it.

Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by hammyhavoc »

maweki wrote: post #137
dylan604 wrote: post #128

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>Sometimes the washing machine is in the basement and can't connect to your WiFi ...snip... >The cloud approach solves this. How? You just stipulated the machine can't connect to wifi

Your WiFi. They clearly stated that getting devices on the same network is non-trivial. Obviously, at a place where no network access exists anyways, neither local nor cloud solutions will work.

If somebody required WiFi in an area of the home where it wasn't already, why not just use a repeater/mesh node? If someone wants their smart appliance online, a few extra dollars on top of a likely three-to-four digit purchase appliance is nothing.

Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by hammyhavoc »

nonethewiser wrote: post #34
belugacat wrote: post #6

Great hack, but I’m sure any engineer worth their salt winces at the thought of a machine in their home roundtripping through far away 3rd party servers (I guess they’re the manufacturer’s, but if it’s hardware I own in my house those servers are 3rd party to me) just to notify them of a numerical value when they’re sitting literally 10 meters away (I live in the countryside and experience internet interruptions not…

I’d pay more for NO firmware in my washing machine. This is beyond my desire to just keep things simple. What is the point of washing machine you can control remotely? You have to put clothes in at the start and take them out at the end. It offers no convenience.

Example of why someone would want to control it remotely: not infrequently, people pay less for energy used between x and y hours that are allocated to them specifically as a customer, or, also not uncommonly, people pay less for energy post-midnight prior to dawn when demand is lower, ergo, they can save a significant amount of money by doing their laundry at 3am.

The above doesn't apply to me specifically, but I would like notifications when my washing is done and thus when I can put another load in. This can be done with energy metering or sensors that attach to washing machines or tumble dryers, but not done it yet myself, but would very much like to.

Re: Displaying My Washing Machine's Remaining Time with Curl, Jq, and Pizauth

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Post by readthenotes1 »

My 33 year old Kenmore washing machine works well and is easily repaired (proof: i have done so, twice).

It would be nice to get one of these newer contraptions, but I really have no desire to join the planned obsolescence treadmill.

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