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NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by stusmall »

reso wrote: post #734

This seems perfectly fair to me and I don't understand the controversy. Maybe in the US people see "State Affiliated" as some kind of an insult? Public broadcasters like the BBC and Al Jazeera have done extraordinary work at times. That being said it would only be fair to also include a badge for private media corporations that says who their parent corporation is.

>This seems perfectly fair to me and I don't understand the controversy. Maybe in the US people see "State Affiliated" as some kind of an insult?

From Twitter's definition

> State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution.

Yes. That is an insult.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by thomastjeffery »

AlbertCory wrote: post #754
d23 wrote: post #716

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NPR is not nor has it ever been state-affiliated media in any reasonable sense of the word. Is it a full stop, bald-face lie.

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People can agree with each other politically without consulting with each other.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by sigmar »

just-ok wrote: post #741
d23 wrote: post #716

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NPR is not nor has it ever been state-affiliated media in any reasonable sense of the word. Is it a full stop, bald-face lie.

Has NPR evolved since its inception? Sure. But "nor has it ever been" is... misleading at best: > Funding for NPR comes from [...other sources...] and annual grants from the publicly-funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Hmm, let's look into said Corporation: > On February 26, 1970, the CPB formed National Public Radio (NPR) > The CPB's annual budget is composed almost entirely of an annual appropriation from C…

Not sure if you realize that "State-affiliated" has a very different meaning than "received government funds"

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by PathOfEclipse »

daemoens wrote: post #727
rjzzleep wrote: post #602

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Because the NPR receives almost no money from the federal government. Read the article. It receives less than 1 percent of its $300 million annual budget from the federally funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

From Wikipedia:

Although NPR receives less than 1% of its direct funding from the federal government, member stations (which pay dues amounting to approximately one third of NPR's revenue), tend to receive far larger portions of their budgets from state governments, and also the US government through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

1/3 isn't 100%, but it's also far from insignificant.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by evilduck »

mavhc wrote: post #611
snickerbockers wrote: post #498

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So it doesn't get mistaken for an email address.

It's on Mastodon though, the automatic linking wouldn't add mailto: at the front, think it's worth the cost of a few people not being able to post their email address without a mailto:

Referencing one of these username handles in external CMS systems (news sites, blogs, etc) might automatically convert them in Rich Text editors, or just Word processors, or even operating system toolings. Seems worth not re-using the same URI format.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by eppsilon »

AlbertCory wrote: post #759
daemoens wrote: post #727

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the NPR receives almost no money from the federal government. Read the article. It receives less than 1 percent of its $300 million annual budget from the federally funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

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Then Twitter could label them "non-profit" instead of "government-funded" or "state-affiliated", both of which imply government influence or control.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by detaro »

AlbertCory wrote: post #754
d23 wrote: post #716

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NPR is not nor has it ever been state-affiliated media in any reasonable sense of the word. Is it a full stop, bald-face lie.

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And then lets run the same statistics for administrations from the other side. After all, state-controlled media would have to follow switching government lines on this, so it'll show Republicans loving NPR and Democrats hating it during the previous administration, correct?

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by davorak »

woooooo wrote: post #563
jacquesm wrote: post #492

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It's irrelevant, the label implies control like with the Russians and the Chinese, and that control simply isn't there.

1. "True but we think it's irrelevant" does not equate to "false". 2. "But america are the good guys" is the exact kind of thing you see uniformly from all American media including NPR.

State funded media is a phrase, it has meaning beyond the literal meaning of the words. Wikipedia's 'State media' page seems to have it covered:

> State media or government media are media outlets that are under financial and/or editorial control of the state or government, directly or indirectly. [1]

Even that page makes a distinction between state funded and state media[2], but that is not how youtube[3] or others [4], [5], and I am sure many others[6 time based google] do not make the distinction. For better or worse 'State funded media' is often interchangeable with 'state media' and NPR is not state media even if some of its funds come from the state.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_media#:~:text=State%20me.... [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_media#:~:text=Not%20to%2.... [3] https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/state-media-wa... [4]https://www.prindleinstitute.org/2019/03/whats-wrong-with-st... [5] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/194016122092283... [6] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22State+funded+media%22&rlz...

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by shagie »

stusmall wrote: post #771
reso wrote: post #734

This seems perfectly fair to me and I don't understand the controversy. Maybe in the US people see "State Affiliated" as some kind of an insult? Public broadcasters like the BBC and Al Jazeera have done extraordinary work at times. That being said it would only be fair to also include a badge for private media corporations that says who their parent corporation is.

>This seems perfectly fair to me and I don't understand the controversy. Maybe in the US people see "State Affiliated" as some kind of an insult? From Twitter's definition > State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution. Yes. That is an insult.

From their definition from a week ago: https://web.archive.org/web/20230404115255/https://help.twit...

> State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution. Accounts belonging to state-affiliated media entities, their editors-in-chief, and/or their prominent staff may be labeled.

> State-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, are not defined as state-affiliated media for the purposes of this policy.

Note that that copy is currently still live on the China specific version of the page: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/state-affilia...

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Post by AlbertCory »

detaro wrote: post #777
AlbertCory wrote: post #754

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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And then lets run the same statistics for administrations from the other side. After all, state-controlled media would have to follow switching government lines on this, so it'll show Republicans loving NPR and Democrats hating it during the previous administration, correct?

So you're agreeing on their political affiliation? Let's just get that out of the way first.
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