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Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by pc86 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #46
krzrak wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a side note, I thought a little bit about that concept. For me, recreating deceased loved one with AI would be reigniting the grief all over again. I would want to avoid that. Maybe, just maybe, I would be able to use it, for example, to see my grandparents who died ~30 years ago, as a curiosity, but still I'm not sure if I'd want to.

My interest is training a model on myself and everything I’ve learned through life so that if I die, my kids might be able to extract some value from my experience. Learning life on your own without help can be tiring and costly (both emotionally and financially), and bad advice can be worse than no advice. A guide would be helpful imho. Step 1: survive. Step 2: enable yourself to thrive. I already have boxes of pape…

This all assumes the model would give them good advice, which is sort of based on the assumption you would give them good advice, right?

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Post by gs17 »

mabbo wrote: post #49

While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…

Reminds me a little of (fiction, for now) Google People: https://qntm.org/person

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by mmmmmbop »

overthrow wrote: post #47
sdwr wrote: post #17

Wish I had friends who talked mild shit like this! All my friends are nerds who take everything seriously. On the project, did you do anything about the time dimension? ChatGPT is strictly input -> output, but something like this needs time between messages to feel real (and not run constantly). I imagine adding "time since last message" to the training data + expected output would work.

To be completely realistic, the AI would also need the ability to leave you on read.

Definitely. I think an AI for my friends would be relatively straightforward. It would just never reply.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by blarghyblarg »

ryanianian wrote: post #16

Very reminiscent of the Be Right Back episode of Black Mirror [1]. A family member recently died unexpectedly, and I have a small collection of texts, emails, and blog posts by them saved on my machine in the small (perhaps delusional) hope that they'll be a useful training set for a them-flavored chatbot. Perhaps even one that's trained to help me with the grief of their loss. Not a huge amount of training data, tho…

Just imagine this as a subscription service. Lovely! When a loved one dies, you donate their cellphone and provide delegated access to their messages to their social media, and allow a LLM to train.

Now, it's a subscription service to talk to an AI, and not an actual human, so some settings can be tweaked. Lets turn up the honesty, so we can all reach some closure.

Oh... turns out... Johnny sure like to talk smack behind your back. Edna was SUPER gay but had to hide it...

So, so, so many ethical roadblocks. I truly hope this never happens, but, I think we all know that if it looks profitable, it's coming soon.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by chasd00 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #46
krzrak wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a side note, I thought a little bit about that concept. For me, recreating deceased loved one with AI would be reigniting the grief all over again. I would want to avoid that. Maybe, just maybe, I would be able to use it, for example, to see my grandparents who died ~30 years ago, as a curiosity, but still I'm not sure if I'd want to.

My interest is training a model on myself and everything I’ve learned through life so that if I die, my kids might be able to extract some value from my experience. Learning life on your own without help can be tiring and costly (both emotionally and financially), and bad advice can be worse than no advice. A guide would be helpful imho. Step 1: survive. Step 2: enable yourself to thrive. I already have boxes of pape…

If you wore a voice recorder and recorded all your physical interactions with your family for a year then transcribed it then trained an LLM I wonder if you could get close.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by theGnuMe »

greenhearth wrote: post #42
syntaxing wrote: post #12

This is awesome, clear and concise explanation. I was talking to my wife and debating whether I should build a model of each of us and store it somewhere in case something tragic happens to either of us. But we decided not to because something about it felt wrong but maybe I’ll make it just in case I regret not doing later on.

Would you not want her to move on, and be allowed the same privilege? This is unnatural and probably unhealthy.

It might actually be helpful in that process. Many people report talking to a loved one in a dream and getting to say something to them and that helped move on for example.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by pc86 »

oidar wrote: post #23

In Caprica, the Battlestar Galaticia, spinoff - a dead character was embodied in a robot and trained on social media content... But in the real world, who owns your LLM dupe output after you die?

Legally, whoever created it. If you created it, it's part of your estate along with whatever other IP you have.

Realistically, nobody cares and it will just get thrown away.

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