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Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#42

This is awesome, clear and concise explanation. I was talking to my wife and debating whether I should build a model of each of us and store it somewhere in case something tragic happens to either of us. But we decided not to because something about it felt wrong but maybe I’ll make it just in case I regret not doing later on.

Would you not want her to move on, and be allowed the same privilege? This is unnatural and probably unhealthy.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#43

This is awesome, clear and concise explanation. I was talking to my wife and debating whether I should build a model of each of us and store it somewhere in case something tragic happens to either of us. But we decided not to because something about it felt wrong but maybe I’ll make it just in case I regret not doing later on.

I really don't understand this sort of thing at all. Even a hypothetical distant future AI that had a human level of sentience and intelligence and could perfectly emulate you in every way still would not be you (even if it could hypothetically be indistinguishable from you in communication), and it's especially odd now with the crude simulacrum it would provide. If you're gone, you're gone. Some model of your brain…

That’s what we’ve came to the conclusion too, kinda like the movie Transcendence. It is a pretty interesting conversation to talk and think about though from a moral, humane, and social aspect.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#44

This was great, I'd love to do something like this but all my group chats are on WhatsApp or Signal!

Both Whatsapp and Signal store their messages in a sqlite-db as well! If your device is rooted/jailbroken, extracting the data is relatively simple (see e.g. here: https://towardsdatascience.com/analyzing-my-whatsapp-databas...)

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#45
post #10

Great write up, thanks for posting. I’ve been thinking of doing this for myself. One thought that’s haunting: how long before AI friends are more interesting and stimulating than any real person would be, leading people to prefer AI over humans to befriend… Super stimulus to end all super stimuluses?

> One thought that’s haunting: how long before AI friends are more interesting and stimulating than any real person would be

It can simultaneously pass the bar exam and port Java applications by name to POSIX compliant C. It can get into deep philosophical conversations, guide you through doing market analysis, etc.

It can take you on a text based adventure set in your favorite nostalgic video game, take on the personality of characters from your childhood, DM a D&D game, etc.

If you are in it for mental stimulation, I’d say GPT-4 is already more interesting and stimulating than any human. It’s like talking to someone who is 50-90th percentile in a wild number of fields and wildly creative.

But it can’t drop acid with you at a deadhead concert, so at least humans still have that to keep us interesting.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#46
post #36

Very reminiscent of the Be Right Back episode of Black Mirror [1]. A family member recently died unexpectedly, and I have a small collection of texts, emails, and blog posts by them saved on my machine in the small (perhaps delusional) hope that they'll be a useful training set for a them-flavored chatbot. Perhaps even one that's trained to help me with the grief of their loss. Not a huge amount of training data, tho…

On a side note, I thought a little bit about that concept. For me, recreating deceased loved one with AI would be reigniting the grief all over again. I would want to avoid that. Maybe, just maybe, I would be able to use it, for example, to see my grandparents who died ~30 years ago, as a curiosity, but still I'm not sure if I'd want to.

My interest is training a model on myself and everything I’ve learned through life so that if I die, my kids might be able to extract some value from my experience. Learning life on your own without help can be tiring and costly (both emotionally and financially), and bad advice can be worse than no advice. A guide would be helpful imho. Step 1: survive. Step 2: enable yourself to thrive.

I already have boxes of paper notes and videos I’ve recorded, as well as books and url bookmarks, just need to get them into a machine readable format.

https://irobot.fandom.com/wiki/Alfred_Lanning

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#47
post #17

Wish I had friends who talked mild shit like this! All my friends are nerds who take everything seriously. On the project, did you do anything about the time dimension? ChatGPT is strictly input -> output, but something like this needs time between messages to feel real (and not run constantly). I imagine adding "time since last message" to the training data + expected output would work.

To be completely realistic, the AI would also need the ability to leave you on read.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#48

One wonders if eventually - historians will plug all the content from a person's personal notes, their diary, their chat logs, into an LLM, and perform research by talking to the AI about the person's life? If you trained an LLM against all the recorded discussions of Einstein - is it that different from talking to Einstein himself?

> If you trained an LLM against all the recorded discussions of Einstein - is it that different from talking to Einstein himself?

The fact that an LLM does not have the ability to think and understand things is a bit of a giveaway.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#49
While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did.

How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they?

Could Google, or any other company out there, build a digital copy of you that answers questions exactly the way you would? "Hey, we're going to cancel the interview- we found that you aren't a good culture fit here in 72% of our simulations and we don't think that's an acceptable risk."

Could the police subpoena all of that data and make an AI model of you that wants to help them prove you committed a crime and guess all your passwords?

This stuff is moving terrifyingly fast, and laws will take ages to catch up. Get ready for a wild couple of years my friends.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

#50
The societal ramifications of such advancements are potentially very disturbing. What I've recently written on the topic myself ...

Human to human bonds are going to be more broken than ever before. There is going to be a great appeal to bond with a machine that never tires of your conversation and will eagerly respond just as you would dream that the perfect human should, but never will. A deceptive temptation that will leave you embracing a hollow illusion. With every conversation the AI will know you better and will be able to model from billions of conversations until it will essentially know your thoughts, predict your thoughts

https://dakara.substack.com/p/ai-and-the-end-to-all-things

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