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ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by 29083011397778 »

andix wrote: post #19
xattt wrote: post #3

Wondering the last few years how long my Plex lifetime pass will last now.

The lifetime license is the same price as 3 years. Lifetime licenses are a lie anyway, nothing lasts forever. But if they cancel my „lifetime license“ before 3 or 5 years elapsed, I will be very, very angry.

I wouldn't worry too much, considering my Plex pass (that I bought on sale, no less) is still good, 12(?) years on. Hell, Plex got dropped from my de-Googled phone before they ditched Lifetime users. I changed email providers before they ditched Lifetime users.

Plex could renege tomorrow, but they've absolutely earned the benefit of the doubt in my opinion.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by stronglikedan »

notwhereyouare wrote: post #67
Someone1234 wrote: post #55

I just want to state outright that OP was wronged, and I side with them. That being said; I dislike both full subscription (i.e. breaks on expiration) and lifetime licenses. Subscriptions are too expensive for software that rarely gets major investment and lifetime licenses are dishonest (e.g. company cannot work for free, so their funded is based on unlimited growth, which isn't realistic for most). My current favor…

that's how the audible ripper I use works. I buy 1 version and get updates for a year and then i'm stuck at that specific version

And one of my favorite pieces of software, Sublime Text.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by knodi123 »

qikInNdOutReply wrote: post #12

The problem with such betrayal is, that companies names are all but smoke and mirrors by now. The reputational damage should be tracking with the leading employees. One customer betrayal travels along with the manager who caused it, to whatever company s/he touches. No matter how the company is named, no matter how much branding, one linked in api roll call later you know what you got.

What's that, you say? Individuals choosing whether to behave ethically because a shoddy reputation can have horrible impacts on their future career? I can't even imagine a world like that! *faints*

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by undecisive »

Graziano_M wrote: post #66
undecisive wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, Visicom is the old owner, as per the quote in the original post: “ManyCam is now under new ownership. […] Visicom Media stands by the Lifetime customers and will continue to support them by arranging with the new owner for a total of two years of free subscription."

I misread. But then I got all these upvotes for nothing.

Yeah, it's awkwardly worded. I must have read the same sentence 3 times before I realised what it was saying. Looking at the latest version of the TOS, the new company is operating under the name "ManyCam ULC"

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by dsr_ »

xeromal wrote: post #76
toastal wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I pay to get extra years of software updates on Android yet? The 2-year support thing is awful.

That's more of a manufacturer choice. The pixel and top-tier samsung lines both get 6 years of security updates

So, in a sense, yes: pay by buying the right phone at the beginning, but it's not available otherwise.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by stronglikedan »

planede wrote: post #5

Isn't this just breach of contract, plain and simple? Change of ownership should have little to do with it.

In my limited experience, companies that breach contracts like this plan for a small amount of litigation in their books, and determine that not enough people will have the means or will to sue them, but the profits of breaching the contracts will be enough to cover the few that do.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by cesarb »

krisoft wrote: post #79
Someone1234 wrote: post #55

I just want to state outright that OP was wronged, and I side with them. That being said; I dislike both full subscription (i.e. breaks on expiration) and lifetime licenses. Subscriptions are too expensive for software that rarely gets major investment and lifetime licenses are dishonest (e.g. company cannot work for free, so their funded is based on unlimited growth, which isn't realistic for most). My current favor…

I see your point, and I largely agree with you. One trickynes is with the "This incentivizes them to deliver value" part. The problem is that if the software just "works" and there are no compelling new features the user will quite rationally stop buying new updates. Which incentivises the developer to make sure that either the software never really "just works" or that they hype up new features to create FOMO. They…

> Which incentivises the developer to make sure that either the software never really "just works" or that they hype up new features to create FOMO.

Nowadays, there's also the security scare. If you don't immediately update to the latest and greatest release, hackers will invade your system, destroy your data, and eat all the food on your fridge.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by blagie »

dsr_ wrote: post #86
xeromal wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's more of a manufacturer choice. The pixel and top-tier samsung lines both get 6 years of security updates

So, in a sense, yes: pay by buying the right phone at the beginning, but it's not available otherwise.

The problem is it's not clearly advertised. Apple has had the longest support life historically, but I most recently bought an Android, since Apple does not commit to any particular timeline forward-looking.

Most of the other vendors also don't clearly indicate how long a new device will be supported for.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Post by Avamander »

notwhereyouare wrote: post #67
Someone1234 wrote: post #55

I just want to state outright that OP was wronged, and I side with them. That being said; I dislike both full subscription (i.e. breaks on expiration) and lifetime licenses. Subscriptions are too expensive for software that rarely gets major investment and lifetime licenses are dishonest (e.g. company cannot work for free, so their funded is based on unlimited growth, which isn't realistic for most). My current favor…

that's how the audible ripper I use works. I buy 1 version and get updates for a year and then i'm stuck at that specific version

Jetbrains/IntelliJ does the same. It's great.
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