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After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by heavyset_go »

MrPatan wrote: post #133
pigsty wrote: post #125

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Every invented moral panic is about “the children.” Rock music, Jewish people “corrupting” the youth, satanists, trans people. It’s sad that people still buy into these stories meant to outrage people and seed divide, anger, and violence. And it’s always pushed by people with clear political and financial agendas picking fringe extreme and uncommon examples pretending it’s everywhere. Someday you’ll forget this was e…

Nope. What's you explanation then for why literally nobody cared about adult trans people just a few years ago? The difference with the others is that you can stop liking dumb edgy stuff when you grow up, but you can't grow new tits. As for the financial agenda... yeah, exactly. Just follow the money. What did you find?

> Nope. What's you explanation then for why literally nobody cared about adult trans people just a few years ago?

What? They've been trying to ban trans people from bathroom via legislation since before 2014 and have been screaming about pronouns for nearly the same amount of time.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by account42 »

chownie wrote: post #84
hoseja wrote: post #68

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Provide the evidence, you'll quickly find that it doesn't support the claim. No children (prepubescent) are given surgeries, a tiny minority of 16 year olds are able to receive top surgeries but the vast majority can't even get hormones until late teens.

> a tiny minority of 16 year olds are able to receive top surgeries

And this is supposed to be an argument for "it never happens"? You don't see a problem with confused girls who are still coming to terms with their bodies having medically unnecessary surgery to have healthy organs removed? And yes, some of them are regretting that when they grow up. Some of them are even willing to speak up. But I'm sure you will not listen.

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Post by vidarh »

rainworld wrote: post #118
flir wrote: post #109

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As a very rough rule of thumb, if it comes in pill form, it's probably not surgery.

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Almost no word in this is true. Blockers are "reversible": You stop taking them. Their primary effect is a delay of puberty during use, nothing more drastic. "Activists" push them because the negative mental health effects of forcing trans children to go through puberty before they have a chance to decide as adults whether or not to fully transition are severe and debilitating, and it's shockingly immoral to try to actively deny people access to them.

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Post by vidarh »

MrPatan wrote: post #117
Timon3 wrote: post #39

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You just made a wild jump. Do you think hormones are a type of surgery?

They are a type of procedure with irreversible life-altering consequences that somehow you think children can consent to.

It's exactly because hormones have irreversible life-altering consequences that hormone blockers are the one thing prescribed to children suffering from gender dysphoria, exactly to buy time for them to mature and be able to decide whether to go through puberty as the sex they were born at or if they want to transition.

So if you actually believe what you write, then you should be in favour of puberty blockers as an option when medically indicated.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by account42 »

deserialized wrote: post #29
friend_and_foe wrote: post #18

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That's also a good idea.

Yes, it is - but that would upend the 'only two genders/sexes' status quo and we can't have that. Imagine the mass panic and moral decay that would ensue. Why bother loving your kid for who they are when you can just ask the docker to slice them up before they can consent? Or deny them access to Healthcare based on your own feelings because you really like your kids genitals... /s

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Post by account42 »

zrail wrote: post #55
the_doctah wrote: post #9

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I think it's more about the children having radical surgery backed by zero scientific research. Couldn't care less what adults want do to themselves.

Children don't receive elective surgery. It's just not a thing, in any medical guidelines or ethics rules, anywhere in the country. Older teens, _extremely rarely_, are allowed to have top surgery, but it's case by case. Children _can_ receive puberty blockers, which _by definition_ are 100% completely reversible. The process to start treatment is universally difficult and involves multiple years of therapy and concu…

> Children _can_ receive puberty blockers, which _by definition_ are 100% completely reversible.

This is such an absurd statement. You don't "define" how the body works.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by rainworld »

vidarh wrote: post #143
rainworld wrote: post #118

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Almost no word in this is true. Blockers are "reversible": You stop taking them. Their primary effect is a delay of puberty during use , nothing more drastic. "Activists" push them because the negative mental health effects of forcing trans children to go through puberty before they have a chance to decide as adults whether or not to fully transition are severe and debilitating, and it's shockingly immoral to try to…

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Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by notahacker »

peterfirefly wrote: post #126
notahacker wrote: post #76

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Can't even kneel on someone's neck for several minutes until they cease whimpering about shortness of breath any more. Moral panic gone mad!

Not really what happened, was it? It's what you were told happened, though.

I mean yes, it's what the medical experts and reports told us happened (even the lead defense witness merely advanced alternative theories about how the restraint could have contributed to his death in ways which wouldn't make the officers culpable rather than pushing the 'overdose' angle, whilst also conceding that the officers' failure to attempt to resuscitate him after detecting no pulse was a contributory factor in the death).

But clearly nothing can compare with what your favourite partisan source tells you happened.

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Post by psd1 »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #17
d6e wrote: post #6

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And the current one is all the fear about transgender people. America seems to always need to be afraid of some group of people

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Or we can turn it around and say that the client one is the enabling of the alt-right.

Between the trans and the alt-right, which do you think is responsible for more harm?

Alt-rights are indoctrinating our children and eating away at society. They push their agenda into our schools and courtrooms. It's not

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