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Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/afghanistan-d... Anyone that gets into defense because of this thread, remember that the technologies you develop will be used to slaughter the innocent.

Dude, you don't need high tech to slaughter the innocent, any fool can do that. What gold-plated weapons systems do is credibly deter a Chinese landing force from showing up in Taipei, or help the Ukranians achieve the 5+ K/D ratios they need to survive as an independent nation. I'd be happier to know that my code would let a shaped charge target a J20 cockpit in the unlikely event of Really Bad Decision Making, than…

I don’t know about the foreign persons ;) - being a naturalized citizen there are plenty of foreign citizens the wife and me know. They pay decently though but not big tech level pay. You definitely can’t answer the what you’re working on question. We live in Illinois and there’s plenty of people around us who work at the same place.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Damn this is the most depressing comment in this whole comments section

Yeah, would be great to live in a magic land, where the US has no competitors, adversaries and sworn enemies. But this isn't magic land. US defense contractors are very much for profit and deliver a product that deters or kills some very bad people, more and more discriminating between collateral damage and intended targets - far more than can be said of Russian in Ukraine, for example. There's an entire generation i…

True but I must insist you are remiss for not pointing out that the "tech industry" is founded on the military industrial complex and has been rooted in defense contracts throughout its history, including and especially silicon valley itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley#History

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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post #67

Might help if folks post locations of where they're looking? I get a general vibe (with no hard data) that the NYC area has no shortage of work for SWEs, but other cities might not? I'd be curious to hear other folks' thoughts on their locations.

Yes, I had my LinkedIn location set to NYC since I was living there before and forgot to update it. As soon as I set my status to #opentowork I started getting messages from recruiters for roles in NYC (and some in Chicago). To be sure, it was still nowhere near the same level as the "good" times before the recent round of layoffs, but it was something.

I changed my location back to the west coast where I'm currently located, and the drop in messages has been noticeable. So I'm inclined to believe that the west coast tech scene (what I consider "new" tech) has been hit harder. On the east coast there's still a decent amount of tech openings in finance, defense, and other old school/traditional industries.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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It's not just you. I've been applying to junior/mid-level full stack roles with ~2 YoE with little luck for the past 2 months. I also sent around 100 applications a month and got a single interview. I've started tailoring my applications more and moved away from LinkedIn which is flooded by third-party recruiting agencies who take a 10 second look at your CV before you're binned - to platforms such as Cord, Otta and Hackajob, which I'm having much more luck on. I got 3 interview offers today, it's looking better.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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post #89

Hiring manager here with open REQs. I've been doing multiple phone screens daily, and it's been brutal on my end, too. I structure the hour-long phone screen to be 1/3 coding, 1/3 behavioural questions, and 1/3 career growth and questions for me. We rarely get out of the coding question block. It's a fairly simple question that ChatGPT solves easily. The tightest solution is about 10 lines of code. It can be answered…

An hour? Why would a phone screen be an hour. I don't want a hiring manager to ask tech questions and I don't want to talk to one for a whole hour.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Meta point (pun unintended): the gravy times are over for us SW engineers, and I won’t be surprised if looking back many will see the past decade as a wasted opportunity for some sort of collective bargaining, or a greater seat at the table of businesses

People said that in 2002. There's always been ebb and flow since the beginning of time. Irrational exuberance is the nature of crowds of speculators.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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> Lockheed is dirty while Palantir or Facebook aren’t Said nobody with any common sense, ever. Palanthir or Meta are in my eyes as bad on CV as… as… wait is there a way I don’t go Godwin’s in this thread?

Agreed. Where I work we hire people from Lockheed all the time. Meta? We wouldn't touch them. Move fast and break things isn't the mentality we're looking for when working with what the Department of Homeland Security has classified as National Critical Infrastructure. If our service goes down, civilization goes down. We can't afford to hire people who've spent a career playing games.

> Meta? We wouldn't touch them.

is this your employer's policy? Or do you just fail them in in the interview regardless of their performance.

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