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I worked at Google for -10 days

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Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by volkk »

andgein wrote: post #108
kleiba wrote: post #6

I worked at Google for 0 days. There. Fixed that for you.

Yes, it we're speaking so strictly, you're absolutely right. I was attempting to make light of the situation. Sorry if my attempt at humor was not well-received..

no worries, humor is fine. human here. the poster above is actually a robot replying to you to make sure you understand the absolute explicitness of the zero days of which you had worked there. most humans here understood this, but the robot misinterpreted. their training data did not include comedic literature

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by ajcp »

onion2k wrote: post #10

Having an offer rescinded for 'business reasons' is unbelievably annoying, and the author has my sympathy. That said, it's kind of understandable too. Things happen. The landscape changes. Some people will be affected. You kind of have to roll with it sometimes. I wish the author the best of luck finding something else quickly. What I find truly incredible though is that it took a full year to go from application to…

I'm always astonished at the incredibly slow, inefficient, and bureaucratic hiring processes of what are held to be the most capable companies in the world. I imagine it's also incredibly expensive and -from what I've read- doesn't seem cut down on the cases of false positives it's supposedly there to prevent.

I wonder why these companies don't try and emulate something like what a military does: take in the willing and motivated, give them all the basic skills valued by the organization, asses their existing capabilities, and then place them where needed after more targeted training.

Now I'm not sure that's quicker, cheaper, more efficient, or less bureaucratic; rather I'm just surprised none of these companies have at least tried it in the face of their current systems.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by pja »

remote_phone wrote: post #16

I don’t remember hearing about offers that were recalled during the dot com bust. Is this something new that is now the new normal?

Generally in the dot.com bust you woke up to discover that your contract wasn’t worth the paper it was notionally written on because your future employer had just gone bankrupt.

This wave of redundancies is a choice made by the managements of the FAANG (excepting Apple?) & related companies: Google in particular has spent more in share buybacks this year than it would take to employ the people management laid off for decades to come if I understand the numbers correctly.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by mschuster91 »

slymon99 wrote: post #84
cleansy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a general clause that any employee who is moving for a certain job should put into their contracts. If the company does not agree to cover at least the basics, then hey, maybe it's not a good idea to move for that job in the first place? EDIT: to your point, this should be enforceable in any jurisdiction that generally holds up with the law?

literally no big tech employer is going to allow you to add clauses to your employment contract

Tech employers have their own relocation clauses usually that have the same wording.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by brk »

cleansy wrote: post #8

Time to learn about a relocation clause in the general employee agreement: Clause [X]: Relocation Expenses and Redundancy Protection The Company agrees to reimburse the Employee for reasonable and necessary relocation expenses incurred by the Employee in connection with the Employee's relocation to the work location specified in this Agreement, subject to the terms and conditions set forth herein ("Relocation Expense…

As other commenters have mentioned, you're not going to be able to insert your own clauses into any standard employment agreement.

However, every large employer has already relocated hundreds, if not thousands, of employees. They have similar clauses that are approved, but as a candidate you may need to ask to have such a clause included.

Depending on the hiring market, the specific position, and your unique circumstances, you may or may not be able to get something added to the agreement, but it would rarely be unjustified to ask for some kind of relocation protection.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by matrix_overload »

irorodkdj wrote: post #90
zippergz wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please get back to me once you've gotten a multinational corporation to agree to this (or any other candidate-provided clause) for a non-executive employee.

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That's a very stupid and short-sighted attitude. Russia has effectively been a dictatorship for the past couple of decades, so most regular people have zero control over the policy.

Most pretend to just not notice things and hope their lives won't be affected, some tried protesting and ended up jailed, a few prominent idea-driven people got assassinated. So yeah, sure, let's blanket-ban everyone with a Russian passport from Western employment, so the only way for them to feed the family would be joining a guided missile production facility in Russia. Great idea /s.

Sanctioning specific companies and specific individuals makes sense. Blanket bans is just venting your own steam in a counterproductive way.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by wahnfrieden »

xooglechoogle wrote: post #56

Entities with massive wealth, such as Google, should always use money to soften the blow of their mistakes. Giving this person a small chunk of cash would make me respect Google so much more than just screwing this person's life up and saying "Whoops, you're fired, lol!" But it's been a long time since Google was a cool company.

It's simple profit motive. What you're asking for is something else

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by mpeg »

ajdlinux wrote: post #51
no-2-wk-notice wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just don't give notice until the day you start at the new company.

In places that aren't America, it's often a legal requirement (whether by statute or by customary contractual clauses) to give a minimum notice period, and employees who resign without notice can be penalised an amount of money that may be non-trivial for many workers.

FWIW, in the UK notice periods are not worth enforcing either, you have to prove (as the employer) that you incurred extra costs because of the short notice which is tricky and usually not worth it.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by gregw2 »

Sorry for your loss. Been there, kinda.

I got a job at IBM in the mid 90s. They sold the division to Loral before I started but I decided to stay in the position. Then congress cancelled the 2billion dollar contract.

I was laid off before I started.

They had the decency to send me two weeks pay in return for signing something that I wouldn’t sue them. So at least I got paid a little bit.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by [deleted] »

kdmccormick wrote: post #86
no-2-wk-notice wrote: post #23

This is why I suggest not giving two weeks notice when leaving a job for another. Instead send a resignation email the morning you start at the new company. This seems fair and reasonable given that companies are willing to pull offers.

I posted this on your other comment, but I'll post it here again. Leaving without 2 weeks notice seems like a good way to incinerate your professional relationship with your outgoing manager/teammates. I guess if you would never use them for a reference anyway, that's fine, but what if you do want to use them as a reference in the future? Or is your experience that your former team didn't actually mind that you just…

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