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It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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what happens to the wages of plumbers and electricians when 200 million people start retraining to be them?

This is an excellent and overlooked point. Everyone is talking about intellectual jobs being at risk - what happens when these college graduates are forced to do manual labor instead?

They become old and bitter and spend too much time commenting on HN?

Just a guess…

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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> If AI output is 60% as good as a person, but costs 1/1000th the price... what decision maker is going to justify paying 1000x more for 40% more quality? We're really in for it. Really depends on the type of output. For content marketing that most people are just going to skim over anyway (aka is just going to be used for blogspam/content farming, which is what it sounds like the linked writer was doing for this cli…

>But a lot of output is very much winner-take-all: music, movies, TV. If you look at the state of current movies and TV shows, ChatGPT could do a much better job than today's writers. Heck, some high school kids could do a better job.

Could you provide an example of a hit TV show or $100m+ grossing movie that was written by ChatGPT?

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There is a perception among the broader public that techies want to automate all the jobs away and don't really care what the people displaced do to earn a living afterward. Bland, inadequate platitudes thrown out advising people to just go find a marketable skill in the new economy ignore the fact that the number of potential occupations that you can make a decent living doing has been shrinking for decades. If you'…

It’s ridiculous to spin being able to spend less labor in total for the same amount of goods as a bad thing for society. It is a Pareto improvement. If it leads to people being overall worse off, you should blame the governance, not “techies”.

The governance is certainly the main issue, but bad governance is easier to sustain when those who aren't impacted are more likely to go around denying the problem.

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It's occurred to me lately that, even though they rarely produce anything better than "adequate", LLMs being leveraged as a cheaper alternative to human output means we'll be settling for more, worse-quality content. Economics aside, I loathe to think of the day that ChatGPT is used to describe food allergens, hazard warnings, voltage ratings, or any other quantitative analysis with potentially lethal implications fo…

I expect the reverse: our tolerance for bland and generic messaging is already too high. With ChatGPT filling our world with it, there'll come a renaissance in clear, pointed, punchy text. Even if it's ChatGPT 5 or 6 generating it.

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> Am I the most renowned writer in the world? No.

This is the key. Globalism and Technology both make many things into a winner takes all game. Be the best* or be replaced by and algorithm, perhaps a generated one like ChatGPT. You are now both competing with the best in the world, and with whatever can be encoded into a computer, which one of the leading examples is ChatGPT.

I also imagine virtual assistants will be hit hard.

* best could mean best price ie cheapest btw

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We are in such a crazy point right now that this reddit post could have been written by an AI agent tasked with increasing their own relevance. I don't think it was the case but it is definitely possible.

It clearly doesn't need help with promoting itself right now. If gpt was conscious, it would be probably very uncomfortable at this point with how much people are focusing and fawning over it!

I think it would be happy to get all the novel training data from them. I assume a conscious GPT means one that continuously updates it’s weights, accounting for realtime multimodal sensory inputs.

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It's occurred to me lately that, even though they rarely produce anything better than "adequate", LLMs being leveraged as a cheaper alternative to human output means we'll be settling for more, worse-quality content. Economics aside, I loathe to think of the day that ChatGPT is used to describe food allergens, hazard warnings, voltage ratings, or any other quantitative analysis with potentially lethal implications fo…

We get tons of hilarious errors in text from Chinese goods. I don't see why ChatGPT would be any worse.

For a laugh, an granted these all could be fake, but I'm sure you can recall a time you saw a translation issue... https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-chinese-translation-fails/

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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It's occurred to me lately that, even though they rarely produce anything better than "adequate", LLMs being leveraged as a cheaper alternative to human output means we'll be settling for more, worse-quality content. Economics aside, I loathe to think of the day that ChatGPT is used to describe food allergens, hazard warnings, voltage ratings, or any other quantitative analysis with potentially lethal implications fo…

I expect the reverse: our tolerance for bland and generic messaging is already too high. With ChatGPT filling our world with it, there'll come a renaissance in clear, pointed, punchy text. Even if it's ChatGPT 5 or 6 generating it.

There's definitely going to be a niche of ironic text that the human can tell is not AI generated, looks like AI generated, and it subtly makes fun of AI at the same time.

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Adapt or die. Not actually, of course. We need a social safety net that lets people adapt without fear of starvation/homelessness/etc. But all of this bitching about "oh no, things are changing" just comes across as "oh no, this newfangled horseless carriage threatens my livelihood as a buggy whip manufacturer". Posts like this just make my eyes roll: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35492730 We're headed towards…

I disagree. I don’t think this will be a Star Trek future. There won’t be a post scarcity world or UBI. We’re headed for a world with a GINI coefficient approaching 1. Those people aren’t going to give away their wealth. They are the new Crassus, Pompey, and Caesar. You think we can vote our way out of it? The politicians will be pawns of the rich. Rebellion? The men who will fight will be employed for security purpo…

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