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Is Nerd Culture Dying?

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Re: Is Nerd Culture Dying?

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Geek culture is things like comic books, video games and Star Wars. Nerd culture is things like recreational mathematics, model trains, and editing Wikipedia.

I don’t like the term nerd, because when I was growing up it was a very hurtful epithet, but exactly this. There’s nothing inherently connecting liking math or computers, on the one hand, and super hero comics on the other. It was just an accident of history.

Re: Is Nerd Culture Dying?

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I think that nerd culture has just gone mainstream. It's far from dying.

> has just gone mainstream Care to provide some examples? Most "nerd" interests like SciFi have been neutered if not completely bent out of shape while going mainstream.

George RR Martin made a good point- that if a nerd is someone with a lot of knowledge about something others find uninteresting, we've all become nerds with the advent of the internet. It's just too easy to go down a rabbit hole not to be a nerd in regards to something.

Re: Is Nerd Culture Dying?

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Nerd culture has been mainstream since The Big Bang Theory; le geek c'est chic. D&D, Comic books, nerdy plastic-framed glasses, etc... are all "having a moment".

So is nerd culture dying? No, it's just being sold now, too. Nerds will never die, as witnessed by anyone who has ever played D&D with a "rules lawyer".

Nerds, the people, who are--according to my own mushy definition: socially awkward people who obsessively pursue a niche interest/hobby that is outside of the mainstream. If their hobby/interest is in the mainstream, they know all the lore, such that, if there is an argument to be had about some small detail, they will be prepared.

Legend has it, they are in their basements right at this very moment, studying, reading, preparing, for that argument about whether or not the DM was right about encumbrance...

Re: Is Nerd Culture Dying?

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First define something that doesn't exist. Then, say its dead. Voila!, now you're an astute critic of culture.

I never really liked the term "nerd". I always felt it was something used to denigrate people who had interest of passion about something. Maybe people started to fetishize it recently. But either way, can't people just let people enjoy things without classificaiton.

Re: Is Nerd Culture Dying?

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yogi Berra: “Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded”

(Warning: quote attribution nerdary ahead) > In conclusion, the earliest instances of this remark were anonymous. The comedians Rags Ragland and Ukie Sherin employed the quip, as did the writer John McNulty. In addition, there is some evidence that Yogi Berra employed the joke, but in all cases the jest was already in circulation. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/08/29/too-crowded/

The others before McNulty in 1943, the others were thematic, but not there. Berra was born in ‘25. It’s possible in the days before the internet that two distinct an unconnected people came up with a similar expression, or, given baseball traveling maybe he picked it up from others along the way. So I think it’s a tossup between Berra and McNulty. The others are on their way there but not there.

Re: Is Nerd Culture Dying?

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One could hope that what is dying is the idea that there is such a thing as "nerd culture".

Can you be more transparent about who you’re insulting and how you hope to thus raise your own status? It’s difficult to figure out anything from what you’ve written except that you hold someone in contempt.

Re: Is Nerd Culture Dying?

#49

I believe there is no counter culture in the west anymore. It is mainstream to be subversive, and so there is little to no subversiveness left

There are so many ways to be subversive. But it’s becoming more and more socially costly to be subversive.

Re: Is Nerd Culture Dying?

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I think that nerd culture has just gone mainstream. It's far from dying.

Indeed. And "real" nerd culture has just became deeper, and more specialized. Back in the day, a lot of the nerds were into the same type of things, while now there are sub-groups. Some nerds are anime-nerds, others are programming-nerds, and not every programming-nerd is an anime-nerd, and vice-versa. And the amount of nerd-sub groups is huge, every quarter or so I encounter a nerdy topic and sub-group I had no idea…

There are so many groups and most of them don't regularly pop up in mainstream culture.

The fact that mainstream has co-opted many of the past nerdy things doesn't mean they are gone. They have just moved to new not so visible things. And those are hard to see in sea of all the content produced. Independent podcast and comics are a thing. And then there is novels and such from China, Korea and Japan. Some of these more mainstream already lot less.

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