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How To Get Started In Soldering

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Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

#191

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have you used this one? I'd like to buy it, I'd just want to hear that someone used this successfully.

Yes, my son built is a few weeks ago, no issues and works great!

can you recommend any starter soldering iron to go with it? I guess all we would need is a starter solder iron and some solder to complete the clock. Looks like fun!

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

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> just be careful not to overspend on your first iron. I first learned how to solder on an ultra-cheap hardware-store unit, and you should, too I beg to differ. I used to suck at soldering, and while I'm still no expert, swapping my €20 basic soldering iron for a serious Weller unit (starting at €150) changed everything. The Weller heats up almost instantly, goes up as high as you want, and stays at a constant temper…

Its the rule supposedly came up with by Adam Savage - buy cheap tools, use em til you break em, then replace the ones you break with expensive, good tools. The idea of that rule is so new makers can work out what tools they actually are using, so they don't waste a shitload of money. In practice? Some tools are just worth spending the money on upfront, inferior tools will often lead to frustration and failure early o…

The article writer talks about his harbor freight iron. Harbor freight is the perfect place to buy a first to see if youre gonna use it enough to justify a higher quality version of said tool. What isn’t all that good of a place to get a first tool is amazon, because its either cheap chinese crap or potentially counterfeit crap.

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

#193
What, no pre-cleaning? No flux remover spray? Lead solder with no exhaust fan?

Using lead solder is kind of retro. There are good lead-free solders now. If you get the kind with 3% silver, you pay $5 instead of $3 for a small spool, but it's much easier to get good results. Also, that stuff is no-clean, which simplifies things.

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

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If I may, I would complete a few points in the article. Soldering iron: Get a decent one. That doesn't mean you must throw a boatload of money, just avoid the crappy ones, which almost always are the cheaper ones. A notable exception is the Pinecil by Pine64.org, which is truly a great iron despite being cheap. Pinecil aside, you can snatch a used Weller or Hakko on ebay without spending too much, but beware of the m…

> A notable exception is the Pinecil by Pine64.org, which is truly a great iron despite being cheap. I have a Pinecil and I like it, but I feel that it's not a good recommendation for a first soldering iron. The UI may be confusing for some, it doesn't come with a power supply, the tips are fairly expensive, and there's no place to rest the iron while using it. Instead, I would tell a newbie to get a middle-of-the-ro…

The Pinecil was the first iron I really used extensively and I think it's fine for a beginner. Plug it in, press plus, it heats up. Press plus more if you want to set it hotter, minus to go back down after pressing plus. It can use any USB-C PD power supply, so many will have one from a phone or laptop, you can even run it off a power bank if you want. The default tip is very good and my most-used of all the tips (built a whole keyboard kit using it as my first project), even after getting more. If you set the iron on its side on a flat surface, the tip does not touch the table. This can be used in a pinch, but also Pine64 sells little sponge holders with the positionable metal bar to rest on, or if you get your own brass sponge it should have the same.

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

#195
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> just be careful not to overspend on your first iron. I first learned how to solder on an ultra-cheap hardware-store unit, and you should, too I beg to differ. I used to suck at soldering, and while I'm still no expert, swapping my €20 basic soldering iron for a serious Weller unit (starting at €150) changed everything. The Weller heats up almost instantly, goes up as high as you want, and stays at a constant temper…

Its the rule supposedly came up with by Adam Savage - buy cheap tools, use em til you break em, then replace the ones you break with expensive, good tools. The idea of that rule is so new makers can work out what tools they actually are using, so they don't waste a shitload of money. In practice? Some tools are just worth spending the money on upfront, inferior tools will often lead to frustration and failure early o…

>In practice? Some tools are just worth spending the money on upfront, inferior tools will often lead to frustration and failure early on.

no, you can't undermine the idea with this trick. For example (grabbing examples from other comments in this thread), while an expensive soldering iron might be much better than a cheap one, there is no way you know before you start whether you're going to be soldering a lot.

I know how to solder, I've soldered a lot since I was about 13, and I can solder just fine with a crappy soldering iron (just like good pizza makers can use a primitive wood fired oven) but after I learned to wire-wrap, I put down my soldering iron almost for good... and does wire-wrapping even exist any more? If I wanted to take it up again, I'd find antique wirewrapping tools before I'd torture myself with soldering anything. All of which is my way to say, if I can't predict how much soldering I'm going to do, then no beginner can predict whether an expensive soldering iron is what they need or not.

Maybe if you went out and geared up with the most expensive technical mountain climbing gear, you could climb Everest on your first try, and you could then make the case that had you bought the cheap stuff you would have been discouraged by frostbite. But that's just not a good plan.

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

#196
Am I missing something? The article says:

> As you’re applying heat with your soldering iron, it’s important to have the metal tip heating both the pad and the solder that’s going onto it—note the location where I’m placing the iron.

But there's no picture to "note the location where I'm placing the iron" in? Was this article written somewhere else and repurposed and they missed a picture?

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

#197

Thank you, this is great! On another note, what to solder ? I've been playing around with arduinos and esp 32s but so far I've just used breadboards and didn't have to solder. Any recommendations for an easy project to take on?

A mechanical keyboard is a decent project to learn on. I built a Pinky4 kit when I was starting out, since you can't easily buy a keyboard like it already assembled. (Ergodox/Moonlander have bad thumb clusters)

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

#198

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Assuming you place no value on your own time & frustration…

FWIW, I learned this approach while working in the trades as a welder. You have consumables in stock and ready to go, and that includes extra grinders. Some tools you do take the time and effort to really take care of, of course, but a lot more than you might think are in the cattle not pet category of things.

Similar for professional kitchens. They use cheap pots, pans, knives, etc. then replace them when needed. No special Damascus steel knives and copper ply pans, just functional cost effective easy to replace stuff.

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

#199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you place no value on your own time & frustration…

FWIW, I learned this approach while working in the trades as a welder. You have consumables in stock and ready to go, and that includes extra grinders. Some tools you do take the time and effort to really take care of, of course, but a lot more than you might think are in the cattle not pet category of things.

I'm trying to learn welding/metal working so I can combine it with woodworking for furniture making. Meaning I know shit about tools compared to a professional.

But I've bought two grinders and have an ancient cheap one from father in-law. My cheap Metabo is relatively quiet and smooth. Cheap Lidl one is loud and jerky. Ancient one I've just thrown away at how bad it was to use. Recently I had to grind some tubing for > hour and my wrists felt it even with the Metabo entry level. Supposedly the pro versions have antivibration, better balanced, speed control, etc.

My point being if I was using this 5 days a week for >1h I'd invest in ease of use/comfort/safety - no ? I'd probably have a few throwaway ones for backup.

Re: How To Get Started In Soldering

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> just be careful not to overspend on your first iron. I first learned how to solder on an ultra-cheap hardware-store unit, and you should, too I beg to differ. I used to suck at soldering, and while I'm still no expert, swapping my €20 basic soldering iron for a serious Weller unit (starting at €150) changed everything. The Weller heats up almost instantly, goes up as high as you want, and stays at a constant temper…

Agreed. There is a huge difference learning to solder SMDs with a Metcal or Thermaltronics system vs a Weller or Hakko system.

I cry for all the time I wasted soldering before finally sucking it up and getting a Metcal.

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