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Re: Personal Concierge Using OpenAI's ChatGPT via Telegram and Voice Messages

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Post by MetaWhirledPeas »

titaniczero wrote: post #48
throwaway2203 wrote: post #41

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The Bing app isn't as responsive as ChatGPT. I asked it a slightly question about my taxes and it "binged" something weird and gave me a non-answer generic response.

I’ve noticed that bing chat is better if you instruct it not to search anything, that way it will use the model knowledge. I’ve learned to use the model knowledge or the web search results summary depending on what I want. But ChatGPT is still way better for model knowledge because it has fewer restrictions. I wish they would make this distinction clearer in the UI. Most of the time it can answer without resorting to…

It definitely has a web search bias, no surprise, but that's kind of its superpower too. It lacks the snappy responses that Assistant can give, especially with routine questions like the weather.

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Post by joseph_grobbles »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #32
ratg13 wrote: post #28

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> a personal AI assistant to act as a second brain, and help me prioritize and remember things with human intuition Everyone wants this, but this is not the product. The current AI offerings are information in --> information out. It is not meant to keep state long term, and it is not meant to be your friend. It is meant to answer questions with the information available to it. You can even see in the example screens…

That's just the case for this bot, but is obviously not the case for ChatGPT. I have a long running conversation with ChatGPT that I use to keep track of a verbal to-do list. I tell it my items with categories (e.g. work, personal, etc.) and estimated times, and then it outputs my complete task list, grouped by category. I then just tell it when I add tasks or complete tasks, and it continually keeps track of and out…

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Post by dgellow »

drowsspa wrote: post #31
hhh wrote: post #14

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People continue to push this, without reading the privacy statements regarding API use. https://openai.com/policies/api-data-usage-policies https://openai.com/blog/introducing-chatgpt-and-whisper-apis

Even if you accept their pinky promise, won't people seeing others people's conversations just a few weeks ago?

Only discussion titles (some payment information also leaked though).

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Post by avereveard »

jbellis wrote: post #29
sheepscreek wrote: post #22

Great work! Thanks for taking the time to build this and open sourcing it. For me, it scratches on a very real itch. I’ve toyed with the idea of a personal AI assistant to act as a second brain, and help me prioritize and remember things with human intuition (“you can’t afford to delay X, do X today and maybe reach out to Z to set the expectations for delaying Y?”). To me, the greatest strength of LLMs is not their k…

GPT4 is so much better than 3.5 at virtually everything that I don't think it's worth trying to figure out which ones 3.5 is almost adequate enough for. Also, the pricing is per token, so even with 4 it is close to negligible unless you are loading in a lot of context or your conversation gets very long.

This by defsult is using the zero shot agent attached to Google, it is burning trough tokens.

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Post by aqme28 »

m3kw9 wrote: post #55
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #32

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That's just the case for this bot, but is obviously not the case for ChatGPT. I have a long running conversation with ChatGPT that I use to keep track of a verbal to-do list. I tell it my items with categories (e.g. work, personal, etc.) and estimated times, and then it outputs my complete task list, grouped by category. I then just tell it when I add tasks or complete tasks, and it continually keeps track of and out…

And what happens when your window runs out? It prunes the oldest convo which you will need to keep track. Likely it could be fine, but if there was a task from a long time ago, that could get wiped out

You could store whatever personal data you want in embeddings and use the api to refer to those. Can't do it on vanilla ChatGPT with the website though, I don't think.

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Post by aqme28 »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #35

This is the new hello world. https://github.com/danneu/telegram-chatgpt-bot https://t.me/god_in_a_bot (demo bot) I tried building this for WhatsApp but Twilio is weirdly expensive. I don't even think Twilio is cheap for sending 2FA tokens.

It is expensive, so I made a version for myself as a Discord bot https://github.com/alexQueue/GPTBotHost/ (note: code is sketchy. Not really cleaned up for the public)

Re: Personal Concierge Using OpenAI's ChatGPT via Telegram and Voice Messages

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Post by literalAardvark »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #49
literalAardvark wrote: post #39

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The real problem with 4 is that OpenAI are having trouble keeping up with the demand. So it might not be an option until 4 turbo comes out in 37 hours or whatever their development cycle is these days.

Yea, I find it a fair bit annoying that I pay $20 and have a 25 message cap every 3 hours.

I'm just excited to have access at all.

Re: Personal Concierge Using OpenAI's ChatGPT via Telegram and Voice Messages

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

m3kw9 wrote: post #55
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just the case for this bot, but is obviously not the case for ChatGPT. I have a long running conversation with ChatGPT that I use to keep track of a verbal to-do list. I tell it my items with categories (e.g. work, personal, etc.) and estimated times, and then it outputs my complete task list, grouped by category. I then just tell it when I add tasks or complete tasks, and it continually keeps track of and out…

And what happens when your window runs out? It prunes the oldest convo which you will need to keep track. Likely it could be fine, but if there was a task from a long time ago, that could get wiped out

Every time I add or complete a task, ChatGPT outputs the latest complete copy of my task list (I only had to ask it to do this the first time, then it just did that automatically). So, in other words, it always updates the latest "live state" in its most recent message. If I hit the limit on context window it would just take me ~30 seconds to open up a new window with my original prompt and the latest iteration of my task list if I so desired.

Here's where I posted a snippet of this convo a couple weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35390644

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

rolisz wrote: post #54
ravenstine wrote: post #44

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Oh dang, that sounds awesome. So a ChatGPT conversation doesn't have a historical limit? I guess I assumed it would start having to forget things at a certain point.

If it periodically outputs the latest state of the todo list, it won't have the problem of forgetting things from a long time ago.

FWIW that's exactly what it does (updates the current state of the whole todo list each time). After two weeks of use I've never had it make a mistake in keeping track of my total list of tasks. By default (I mean I didn't ask it to do this) it outputs the total estimated time for each category of tasks, and that summation has been wrong (which wasn't that surprising to me, as "LLMs aren't great at math" is a known issue), but even then I just tell it "Can you double check the category totals?" and it fixes them.

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Post by jjcon »

jbellis wrote: post #29
sheepscreek wrote: post #22

Great work! Thanks for taking the time to build this and open sourcing it. For me, it scratches on a very real itch. I’ve toyed with the idea of a personal AI assistant to act as a second brain, and help me prioritize and remember things with human intuition (“you can’t afford to delay X, do X today and maybe reach out to Z to set the expectations for delaying Y?”). To me, the greatest strength of LLMs is not their k…

GPT4 is so much better than 3.5 at virtually everything that I don't think it's worth trying to figure out which ones 3.5 is almost adequate enough for. Also, the pricing is per token, so even with 4 it is close to negligible unless you are loading in a lot of context or your conversation gets very long.

Maybe it is just my niche use cases but after spending a good few hours with both, 3.5 for me has actually produced more coherent outputs for me which is a little confusing to me. Maybe I need to rethink my prompting or something.
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