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Apple’s plunge in PC shipments is steepest among major computer makers

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Post by walterbell »

pjmlp wrote: post #125
walterbell wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each country has a database that tracks import fee payment history by OEM serial number of laptops and other electronic devices, based on shipments to other countries?

I don't know how it actually works, rather an Interpol kind of database where products serial numbers are tracked in some way. Being caught on lies where we actually bought our phones or cameras, while being controlled on the French/Swiss border wasn't that out of the ordinary.

Was that necessary on every border crossing, e.g. showing copies of import fee payment receipts for each device? Sounds like a lot of overhead.

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Post by ta1243 »

propogandist wrote: post #94
quickthrower2 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lenovo Flex, Asus Vivobook, Dell XPS13 Desktops are a different breed. They last forever.

A thinkpad would offer great build quality, although some of that is slipping due to Lenovo’s cost cutting strategies. Unfortunately, today’s Windows OS is spyware, especially Windows 11, so the entire OS needs to be removed, if you want a good machine which fires not constantly send usage data to the Azure mothership, or some 3rd party.

People have being lamenting the death of thinkpad for nearly 20 years. Lenovo purchase in 2005, keyboard changes in 2012, etc

It's still here, and still solid

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Post by hbn »

TuringNYC wrote: post #108
stametseater wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The term "personal computer" predates the IBM PC by a few years, and was generally a synonym with "home computer" (which Apple computers also were.) For instance, the TRS-80 was not an "IBM compatible PC", but was advertised as a personal computer. When these terms were new, they weren't yet technical jargon with subtle meanings. "Personal computer" meant simply a computer intended for personal use.

That might have been the case at one point, and perhaps again, now, but i've see PCs to not include Macs in common usage for decades. Here is one example directly from Intel: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/tech-tips-and-tricks... Mac* vs. PC: Choose What’s Right for You When it comes to the choice between a Mac or PC, selecting a device that offers the features and flexibility you need is what matters most.…

I thought a lot of modern people's distinction between PCs and Macs came from Apple's own marketing, like the "get a Mac" ads - "I'm a Mac, and I'm a PC"

With the idea being, "a PC is that old thing you've been using that constantly causes you grief. We're selling you something in an entirely different category."

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Post by driscoll42 »

client4 wrote: post #14

I'd be interested in a Mac once Linux is viable on it. OSX feels outright hostile to power users at this point.

I'd be interested if I could run Windows. I vastly prefer the Windows OS experience to OSX. I got a MacBook for work and tried it for five months and exchanged it, very happy with the choice.

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Post by kmlx »

somewhereoutth wrote: post #127

As 'free money' is sucked out of the system (by reversing ultra low interest rates and QE), people are going to focus their spending on what they actually need - which often is not an Apple product.

or a PC in general:

> Global PC shipments tumbled to 56.9 million in the first quarter, down 29% from the same period a year earlier

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pc-shipments-fall-29-led-by-dro...

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Post by pcurve »

Here's data. # of Apple shipment.

2019 Q1 - 3.9m

2020 Q1 - 3.1m

2021 Q1 - 6.7m (111.5% increase YoY)

2022 Q1 - 7.0m

2023 Q1 - 4.1m

Apple experienced explosive growth in 2021Q1 over 2020 Q1 compared to other PC makers.

Lenovo (+59.1%)

HP (+64.1%)

Dell (+23.4%)

Apple (+111.5%)

Acer (+73.5%)

Where as Lenovo and HP declined ~15% in 2022 Q1, Apple managed to gain 4.5%. So compared others, Apple had more to fall.

Looking at the multi-year trend, the 2023 PC sales volume is returning to 2019 figure, except Apple.

Lenovo 13.4m (2019) vs 12.7m (2023)

HP 13.5m (2019) vs 12.0m (2023)

Dell 10.4m (2019) vs 9.5m (2023)

Apple 3.1m (2019) vs 4.1m (2023)

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Post by graboidhunter »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #87
marinhero wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes sense. Amongst my friends, a number of them maxed out an M1 machine not just because of the processor but also because of the improved I/O and new form factor. The M1 machine ticked so many boxes that the purchase decision was not solely pushed by the CPU. The machines are so good it’s hard to justify a new one!

I’m working with a maxed out M1 MacBook Pro and I can’t imagine it being obsolete any time soon. Apple might not sell me a computer for several years, but I spent far more than I would have otherwise. Assuming all goes well, I’ll probably do the same thing when I do buy again.

It won't. My daily driver is still a mid-2010 iMac.
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