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Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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I'm sure you can find much research about how the body reacts to it as such.

Ah, now I see your point. Still should not be called food, though. Unless I've been misusing the word my entire life

Something that may tickle your fancy is considering words as food. Food affects our body in more ways than simply giving us energy. Can words affect the mind in similar fashion?

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Same here. My hunger plateaued after two days, but didn't go away, just became a bit more bearable. 12 days was the longest fast I've done.

Same. 12 days. Was training like a machine I felt almost high. Very clear mentally. Lots of extra time. Wasn't particularly hungry.

I'm confused. You say "same", so you agree with arunix and jraby3? For them their level of hunger increased the longer they fasted. But then you wrote "wasn't particularly hungry", so you agree with franciscop?

Impressive if you did training while fasting btw!

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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This might be the dumbest article I've ever read. It ought to be shockingly obvious that "hunger" associated with people who know what to expect and who do it regularly as a practice is going to be miles different from someone who ate that day and is dealing with different levels of e.g. blood sugar and whatnot.

You sound hungry

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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post #126

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Ah, now I see your point. Still should not be called food, though. Unless I've been misusing the word my entire life

Something that may tickle your fancy is considering words as food. Food affects our body in more ways than simply giving us energy. Can words affect the mind in similar fashion?

food provides nourishment. surely there must be other, more specific terms for these zero calorie "food" things

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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> instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. From my experience, it's a delusion. The focus is there for some while, but the actual abilities decline very fast without you even realizing it because of this supposed clearness. It might be even that the clearness comes exactly because of your mind limiting itself to a shorter attention and horizon, removing all the complex and complicated…

I can't agree with it being a delusion. Again, my personal experience is just that -- personal. Ketones are associated with fasted states and/or restricted carbohydrates. The average person holds about 400-500g of glucose (1600-2000 calories) in their bodies. Once that is depleted, through fasting or carb restriction, you will switch to ketogenesis to provide fuel. There are numerous studies that show a positive corr…

> There are numerous studies that show a positive correlation with ketone production and cognitive performance.

Do you have a source? Your second link measures cognitive performance in rats, not humans.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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best option is to just assume every psychology/social sciences article is bullshit, pretty much all of the most famous studies have failed to replicate. And many of those studies were used to justify trillions of dollars in federal spending over the past few decades

I think the best thing is to do more research to understand more rather than rejecting the scientific method entirely. It has and will continue to get better and better over time, with occasional regressions that may seem meaningful in the short term but are tiny blips when you zoom out. The history of science is one false theory being replaced by another that’s (usually) marginally closer to the truth.

So someone does a single dubious research, and we follow with 3 more dubious researches to justify the first research. For each of these 3 dubious researches we have to do 3 more to ensure their credibility. And the number of researches grows exponentially while the research quality doesn't improve at all.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

Yeah, as somebody who has experimented with fasting, I think it's a huge mistake to think that Ramadan fasters would respond like hungry non-fasters. Fasting is a common religious practice because it is both a challenge and a discipline. To get good at fasting, you have to work to unlearn habits of instant gratification and learn to consciously lean against the urgings of the body. A fasting practice develops real sk…

There is intermittent fasting research that has shown that fasting after a few days can end up decreasing sleep time and increase all-day energy. My own fasting experience shows this increase in energy and reduction in sleep as getting better and showing more energy in arguments. Some say this would be making me angrier but it isn't. It is making me more forceful at the argument.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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I can't agree with it being a delusion. Again, my personal experience is just that -- personal. Ketones are associated with fasted states and/or restricted carbohydrates. The average person holds about 400-500g of glucose (1600-2000 calories) in their bodies. Once that is depleted, through fasting or carb restriction, you will switch to ketogenesis to provide fuel. There are numerous studies that show a positive corr…

> There are numerous studies that show a positive correlation with ketone production and cognitive performance. Do you have a source? Your second link measures cognitive performance in rats, not humans.

> Castellano, C.A., Nugent, S., Paquet, N., Tremblay, S., Bocti, C., Lacombe, G., Imbeault, H., Turcotte, E., Fulop, T., & Cunnane, S.C. (2015). Lower brain 18F-fluorodeoxyglucose uptake but normal 11C-acetoacetate metabolism in mild Alzheimer's disease dementia. Journal of Alzheimer's Disease, 43(4), 1343-1353. doi: 10.3233/JAD-141952

-- This study found that the brain's uptake of ketones was preserved in patients with mild Alzheimer's disease, and that higher levels of ketone metabolism were associated with better cognitive performance.

> Krikorian, R., Shidler, M.D., Dangelo, K., Couch, S.C., Benoit, S.C., & Clegg, D.J. (2012). Dietary ketosis enhances memory in mild cognitive impairment. Neurobiology of Aging, 33(2), 425.e19-27. doi: 10.1016/j.neurobiolaging.2010.10.006

-- This study found that a ketogenic diet improved cognitive function in patients with mild cognitive impairment.

> Taylor, M.K., Sullivan, D.K., Mahnken, J.D., Burns, J.M., & Swerdlow, R.H. (2018). Feasibility and efficacy data from a ketogenic diet intervention in Alzheimer's disease. Alzheimer's & Dementia, 4, 28-36. doi: 10.1016/j.trci.2017.11.002

-- This study found that a ketogenic diet was safe and feasible for patients with Alzheimer's disease, and that it improved cognitive function in some patients.

Granted, these are studies for people with existing cognitive impairments. However, given how new the science is, I can see why it hasn't been done with healthy individuals, yet.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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It’s interesting to know the effect isn’t as obvious as it originally appeared. But obviously fasting vs fed meal timing have nothing to do with each other in terms of hunger. Fasted ketosis is much different physiologically than serum glucose swings from fed meal timings.
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