This confirms not the opposite, as the new study proposes, but rather that you cannot trust studies. Especially newsworthy ones.
Meaning, if you see a study, don’t believe it.
At least in any social science.
Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true
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Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true
#72I always schedule my appointments at 1PM for this exact reason (lawyers, doctors, etc..). I want them at their best, happiest selves.
I usually go for first appointment of the day or thereabouts. 9am-10AM if possible. Idea being they’re fresh and haven’t been worn down by seeing a lot of people already.
I never make appointments for the later afternoon. Last thing you want is someone that’s tired and trying to hurry up and get home. Also avoid Friday afternoons. I’ve heard stories that manufactured things that have serial numbers that say they were built on a Friday afternoon have a far higher warranty claim rate.
Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
How would it? They are all practicing muslims. How could you correct for a trait that is present in every one of the study participants?
That's the scientist's ideal scenario that avoids the need the correct for a trait.
No, it’s the absence of a control because there is no control group. You can’t study whether it’s a religiously affiliated behavior unless you have a non-religious fasting control group. It’s called a confounding variable.
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#74Yes. That is why all the PhD students provide donuts at their defense.
Ah bribery... Hmm, somewhat interesting how we as society have come to accept it in situation like these. I wonder if more research will lead to banning it and punishing people from even attempting. Then again people deciding on punishments are ones that benefit from the bribery so very likely not.
I think this and bribery are different, albeit subtly. Bringing in donuts, which have little material value, to ensure the audience is attuned to your presentation and not distracted by hunger is different than paying someone, for instance.
The fact it’s done openly and for all also legitimizes it.
I’d agree it could introduce a bias against those who don’t bring them.
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#75This isn't how glucose rhythms work, and there is a new Current Biology paper to show the difference:
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(23)00144... https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-prove-that-the-human-bod...
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#76So many comments here claiming to understand the effect of fasting on humans generally through personal experience. Come on, people - your experience is a datum, it's not data, and your entirely subjective conclusions drawn from that datum are not analysis. People's response to fasting varies widely. Hunger is both a physiological and a psychological phenomenon - and like any phenomenon with a psychological component, is highly variable. And our individual ability to release stored glycogen in order to maintain metabolic function without eating also varies widely. There is no single experience of fasting.
Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true
#77So many comments here claiming to understand the effect of fasting on humans generally through personal experience. Come on, people - your experience is a datum, it's not data, and your entirely subjective conclusions drawn from that datum are not analysis. People's response to fasting varies widely. Hunger is both a physiological and a psychological phenomenon - and like any phenomenon with a psychological component…
Everything is anecdotal before it can become science.
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#78I'm a daily faster for the past 20 years, so I can attest (anecdotally) to the benefits of working while hungry. Once you adapt, after a couple weeks, instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. After all, despite the trappings of modern society, we are a predator species. Hunger gets shit done. When I was a kid, I recall the teachers always telling us to have a good meal before a test.…
> instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. From my experience, it's a delusion. The focus is there for some while, but the actual abilities decline very fast without you even realizing it because of this supposed clearness. It might be even that the clearness comes exactly because of your mind limiting itself to a shorter attention and horizon, removing all the complex and complicated…
I can't agree with it being a delusion. Again, my personal experience is just that -- personal.
Ketones are associated with fasted states and/or restricted carbohydrates. The average person holds about 400-500g of glucose (1600-2000 calories) in their bodies. Once that is depleted, through fasting or carb restriction, you will switch to ketogenesis to provide fuel. There are numerous studies that show a positive correlation with ketone production and cognitive performance.
Few examples: > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25404320/ > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27528626/
If I am doing serious deep work, I can go 8 to 10 or so hours without even thinking about food. However, once I do eat, I'm done with any serious work for a few hours. Keep in mind, I'm operating from a 20 year experience of intermittent fasting (before it was cool).
To reiterate, I don't think it's a delusion. We evolved in a feast or famine state. Dense carbohydrate sources and constant satiation were rare when our base metabolic pathways evolved.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
All these sibling comments suggest it is 100% you that has the bias. Is it really not conceivable to you that this varies by person?
Modern humans have modern inventions like zero calorie foods. I’ve talked to many who have fasted where their body probably disagreed with that statement.
Zero calorie food is the very definition of an oxymoron. Emphasis on moron.
This is on same level of single use clothes
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From my experience, I think clearest when my body is not busy digesting. Just as you say my experience is a delusion I can suggest that perhaps your feeling of expanded attention and horizon could be a fallacy caused by your attention in fact becoming more limited as your body diverts blood (and so oxygen) from your brain to your stomach and gut for food processing (which takes hours, so if you eat 3 meals this is ba…
One thing I found quite astounding while fasting is how keen my sense of smell is. I normally don't smell much at all, but while fasting I can smell every restaurant in a 2 mile radius. I guess it's mostly my brain filtering out "irrelevant data" (the location of food becomes relevant when you're hungry!) That made me wonder if my other senses might be sharper while hungry too. As hunters, I imagine our ability to pl…
Agreed. When I first started IF so many years ago, it was a shocker how much my sense of smell increased. In the sense of evolutionary biology, it makes sense. If you are hungry, you better be able to find your next food source and maximize every sense you have to get it done.