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Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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In 2023 what is the advantage of mariaDB/mysql vs Postgres?

there are less dimensions in user/access management to grok, no role privilege inheritance to think of. The public schema in psql has a surprise for unsuspecting mysql converts. Easier connection model. No vacuuming. Maxscale (by mariadb) is a good addition.

Now you didn't ask for Postgres advantages but I know a lot too, I like the choice and competition.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of tooling does MariaDB/MySQL have that you miss when using Postgres? I'm not nearly as knowledgeable about the ecosystem as I am with Postgres.

> What kind of tooling does MariaDB/MySQL have that you miss when using Postgres? Easy upgrades? With MySQL it has never been more involved than running apt-get dist-upgrade/docker rm mysql && docker run mysql/kubectl deploy, depending on the stack. Downtimes of less than two minutes. In contrast, PostgreSQL is such a hassle to upgrade that I only do it when forced to by an application dropping support for the curren…

This 100%. I love PostgreSQL, but I rolled out MariaDB for my personal servers because I like not spending time doing weird things for upgrading the database software.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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post #33

This article twice makes accusations of "racism, sexism, and abuse" without backing it up with facts. Is there any more information about it in the public sphere? Or is it just: "These things are bad and MariaDB is bad, so we'll say they did these things". It certainly seems like the company is going down the toilet, but I'd be dubious about the motivations of an anonymous rant on Medium about a publicly traded compa…

> "racism, sexism, and abuse" without backing it up with facts.

Yeah, I was turned off by this too. Unfortunately this is the psyche of the western world. You disagree with me? You're racist. You think bias in an ML model comes from bias in data. You're a bigot. Such accusation works and LeCun apologizes.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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Well, I was wondering: Can one guy really IPO the same product twice ? It was quite a clever stunt quitting Oracle, snagging IP on the way out, and just rinse/repeat to another $billion+ but it seemed to good to be true. I guess it was. (I am a MariaDB user, btw, so... hoping that it doesn't go completely in the toilet.)

We didn't IPO MySQL, we were acquired by Sun. We were on track for IPO, yes, but there were too many acquisition offers to bother.

Monty didn't "snag IP" or perform a "clever stunt". He forked a GPL codebase the same as anyone else can do. His goal was not to do another IPO.

I get that talking about things you don't actually understand is perfectly human, but Monty's about 99% great guy pretty much all the time. If you want to snipe, take aim at the one thing he actually did wrong, instead of the things other people did wrong with his babies.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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> It absolutely is a problem Apple has, judging by at least three lawsuits which I could find in literally 30 seconds of Googling [1][2][3] - and it isn't just recent claims either, I could find one that went back to 2001 [4]. You're moving the goalposts. In your opinion, is being "very Trumpian" a problem that Apple has? Is Tim Cook running around in a MAGA hat and I totally did not notice? Edit: Regarding that 2001…

> You're moving the goalposts. In your opinion, is being "very Trumpian" a problem that Apple has? Is Tim Cook running around in a MAGA hat and I totally did not notice? I never set goalposts to begin with ffs. The post my original reply was aimed at claimed that: > > I'm thinking those accusations are probably just slurs by someone with a grudge. To which I replied that essentially every organization will have bad a…

You’re exhibiting exactly the kind of “bad apple” behavior that organizations must weed out to stay healthy — not unlike the people that filed those frivolous lawsuits and ridiculous public claims.

You’re primed to see your ideological enemies hiding everywhere, and so you do.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

#97
post #33

This article twice makes accusations of "racism, sexism, and abuse" without backing it up with facts. Is there any more information about it in the public sphere? Or is it just: "These things are bad and MariaDB is bad, so we'll say they did these things". It certainly seems like the company is going down the toilet, but I'd be dubious about the motivations of an anonymous rant on Medium about a publicly traded compa…

According to the thread on /r/mysql, the author used to work there. So there is some credibility to the claims.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

#98
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> From where I sit, $4.8 million in cash is plenty of runway for 100 people, 4.800.000 / 100 = $48,000 per person. For one year. Not counting all other business expenses like servers. Laptops. Slack. Zoom.

These numbers assume no revenue however.

Are they going to attract a lot of big customers after this news?

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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post #33

This article twice makes accusations of "racism, sexism, and abuse" without backing it up with facts. Is there any more information about it in the public sphere? Or is it just: "These things are bad and MariaDB is bad, so we'll say they did these things". It certainly seems like the company is going down the toilet, but I'd be dubious about the motivations of an anonymous rant on Medium about a publicly traded compa…

> "racism, sexism, and abuse" without backing it up with facts. Yeah, I was turned off by this too. Unfortunately this is the psyche of the western world. You disagree with me? You're racist. You think bias in an ML model comes from bias in data. You're a bigot. Such accusation works and LeCun apologizes.

This is not "the psyche of the western world", this is a ridiculous caricature you came up with.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

#100

I wonder if some distro repos will stop installing mariadb instead of mysql whenever you try to install mysql. Always struck me as a weird thing to do since mysql never stopped development. (MariaDB.org seems to be still active, but there is now much more uncertainty (imo) compared to the mysql project)

> Always struck me as a weird thing to do since mysql never stopped development.

What actually happened is more like they changed their name, and sold the old name to Oracle. Oracle then forked and carried on developing a new product under the old name, while the original team carried on developing the old product under the new name (mariadb).

That is why distros did what they did.

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