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Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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Postgres was the first relational database I came into contact with, Interbase the second and Oracle the third. Lately I've been writing a REST back end on top of MariaDB at work, and I swear it's going to drive me insane with its arbitrary limitations. At least SQLite offers something in return that Postgres can't do.

If you think that's bad, you weren't around for the MYiASM (I think it was.. days). Yeah, for years, MySQL shipped with a default storage format that didn't enforce constraints .

To be fair,in those days MyISAM was pretty much the only DB engine that could keep up with the traffic growth rates of the early web, because it didn't enforce constraints. It was optimized for reads, not writes, and was fast enough to hold all state in one DB server for heavy traffic sites. Combined with stateless PHP and memory caching it was the best tool to use for this use case.

That it wasn't the best engine for all use cases and also corrupted data on disk occasionally is a different story. Once InnoDb was ready, you could just mix and match engines in one DB server as far as I remember and use referential constraints where needed.

Later MongoDB marketed itself as "web scale" due to no schema constraints at all. Fun times.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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> I'm running into all kinds of paywalls with Glassdoor and I don't want to register, but google searches make it look like pretty much every company under the sun has a Glassdoor review complaining of racism, sexism, etc. For instance this one claims that Apple is homophobic, racist, sexist, and "very Trumpian": The larger the company, the larger that departments will evolve their internal culture... and if team lea…

From your bio: > You call it "alt-left", I proudly call it "Antifa" You’re hardly representing an unbiased viewpoint, and this isn’t a problem Apple has.

> You’re hardly representing an unbiased viewpoint, and this isn’t a problem Apple has.

It absolutely is a problem Apple has, judging by at least three lawsuits which I could find in literally 30 seconds of Googling [1][2][3] - and it isn't just recent claims either, I could find one that went back to 2001 [4].

And yes, a lack of diversity in hiring can also lead to other problems down the road, such as racial bias in sensors [5].

All of these events could have been prevented by focusing on an inclusive corporate culture.

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/former-apple-lawyer-lawsuit-...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/sep/03/appletoo-...

[3] https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/10/black-employee-sues-...

[4] https://www.wired.com/2001/11/apple-hit-with-racial-lawsuit/

[5] https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/12/29/apple...

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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From your bio: > You call it "alt-left", I proudly call it "Antifa" You’re hardly representing an unbiased viewpoint, and this isn’t a problem Apple has.

> You’re hardly representing an unbiased viewpoint, and this isn’t a problem Apple has. It absolutely is a problem Apple has, judging by at least three lawsuits which I could find in literally 30 seconds of Googling [1][2][3] - and it isn't just recent claims either, I could find one that went back to 2001 [4]. And yes, a lack of diversity in hiring can also lead to other problems down the road, such as racial bias i…

> It absolutely is a problem Apple has, judging by at least three lawsuits which I could find in literally 30 seconds of Googling [1][2][3] - and it isn't just recent claims either, I could find one that went back to 2001 [4].

You're moving the goalposts. In your opinion, is being "very Trumpian" a problem that Apple has? Is Tim Cook running around in a MAGA hat and I totally did not notice?

Edit: Regarding that 2001 article, it's just an article about a lawsuit being filed, which anyone can do whether they have a case or not. I haven't yet found that case, but I found a similar one from 2005 by an apparently obese Black lesbian woman represented by the same law firm:

Here's the trial order. Skimming it, it seems the plaintiff was a terrible employee and her case was so bad she and her lawyers were sanctioned for filing a frivolous lawsuit:

https://casetext.com/case/patterson-v-apple-computer

> Burmeister offered plaintiff an opportunity to support the Apple Hardware Engineering organization, believing that this opportunity would give her a chance to showcase her skills and build a base of support for her clients.... This assignment was not successful. Plaintiff's engineering clients, including Cheryl Smith ("Smith"), an African-American HR Senior Director, found plaintiff to be unresponsive, unhelpful, and rude. Smith believed plaintiff had minimal interpersonal skills. According to Smith, plaintiff frequently responded, "No," or "That's not my job," when Smith sought her assistance. Plaintiff was also resistant to providing data on bonuses, stating that the task was hard. Smith received complaints from her HR team about plaintiff's attitude and refusal to perform work. These problems caused Smith ultimately to limit her interaction with Smith, and to seek intervention from Burmeister.

> Judy Goodson ("Goodson"), another African-American HR Director, found plaintiff to be often unavailable, rude, disrespectful, and negative. To create an opportunity for plaintiff, Goodson invited her to make a presentation to a Senior Vice President and his staff. However, plaintiff declined....

> According to plaintiff's colleague Deborah House ("House"), plaintiff was frequently absent from department staff meetings and quarterly HR Department meetings. According to Burmeister, plaintiff was rude to her colleagues in the Compensation Group, prompting Burmeister to counsel her repeatedly about her inappropriate tone, demeanor, and ability to work with others and be a team player.

> Plaintiff's work day was also interrupted by ongoing personal appointments and activities. She maintained a standing weekly hair appointment during working hours. Starting in February 2002, she commenced weekly sessions with a psychologist whose office was in Oakland, approximately 60 miles from Apple's Cupertino offices. She also spent up to and hour and a half a day trading her personal stock portfolio, and at other times played video games and did crossword puzzles on her computer.

> Plaintiff believed she was entitled to yearly merit increases and promotions. However, Apple had a salary freeze in effect from the time plaintiff was hired until late 2003. Thus, the first opportunity for plaintiff to receive a merit increase was in connection with the review cycle in November 2003. When plaintiff learned that she was not receiving a merit increase, she accessed two Apple databases during work hours to obtain confidential salary and tenure information regarding certain of her colleagues....

> Subsequently, as part of the investigation, plaintiff met with Parker and Hull. Plaintiff confirmed that she had accessed and reviewed her manager's and co-workers' salaries and confidential information independent of any business reason. She considered it appropriate to access the information, and admitted that she had distributed the information to her attorney and therapist. She also confirmed that she had chosen to use a personal laptop for her work at Apple, and therefore possessed confidential Apple information on that laptop. At the conclusion of the meeting, Parker told plaintiff she was suspended with pay pending the outcome of the investigation....

> On November 18, 2003, plaintiff filed a charge of discrimination with the EEOC (charge No. 377-2004-00145), alleging discrimination on the basis of race, and retaliation for engaging in protected activities.

> The court finds that the motion must be GRANTED. Plaintiff has provided no facts to support the racial harassment claim against Walker, failed to state any factual or legal basis for the retaliation claim or the defamation claim against Walker, and stated no facts showing that her invasion of privacy claim was well-grounded in fact or law. On more than one occasion, defendants put plaintiff on notice that her claims against Walker were frivolous, but plaintiff persisted...

> The court awards defendants $5,000 in sanctions against plaintiff and her counsel, the Law Offices of Waukeen Q. McCoy.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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Shades of Basho (rip). One wonders if there is a curse on open source database companies. Maybe we could call it Data Gravity?

> Shades of Basho Can you please explain? They just ran out of money. They never did a SPAC.

https://www.theregister.com/2018/07/09/basho_damages_20m_mis...

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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I would like to know more about those insurances, have they bought new ones? If so, are those really going to cover anything at all they would like to be covered? If there has been negligence, breach of duty or breach of trust in the past, why would a new insurance cover those?

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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This is the second time that Monty left a company that he had no control over even though it was his software "baby" that the company was selling. At least the first time he made some good money. But I'm not sure if that is the case this time. Third time's the charm? Monty you should retain control over the companies that you want to sell your product under. If you don't control over 50% then it's not "your company"…

After leaving Sun Monty in fact started Monty Programming AB - company he started based on "Hacking Business Models" https://hbm.mariadb.org/

It was really company "ran by engineers" focused on developers. Later though he merged with "SkySQL" and the company became MariaDB Corporation

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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> You’re hardly representing an unbiased viewpoint, and this isn’t a problem Apple has. It absolutely is a problem Apple has, judging by at least three lawsuits which I could find in literally 30 seconds of Googling [1][2][3] - and it isn't just recent claims either, I could find one that went back to 2001 [4]. And yes, a lack of diversity in hiring can also lead to other problems down the road, such as racial bias i…

> It absolutely is a problem Apple has, judging by at least three lawsuits which I could find in literally 30 seconds of Googling [1][2][3] - and it isn't just recent claims either, I could find one that went back to 2001 [4]. You're moving the goalposts. In your opinion, is being "very Trumpian" a problem that Apple has? Is Tim Cook running around in a MAGA hat and I totally did not notice? Edit: Regarding that 2001…

> You're moving the goalposts. In your opinion, is being "very Trumpian" a problem that Apple has? Is Tim Cook running around in a MAGA hat and I totally did not notice?

I never set goalposts to begin with ffs. The post my original reply was aimed at claimed that:

> > I'm thinking those accusations are probably just slurs by someone with a grudge.

To which I replied that essentially every organization will have bad apples and it's good corporate governance to weed these bad apples out.

Then, in response to someone else thinking it might be a civilized idea to claim I might be biased in favor of anti-discrimination, I listed sources proving a decades-long history of Apple teams and leadership being independently accused of discrimination because apparently one needs to prove what should be common sense, and now you come on and accuse me of moving goalposts? WTF?

> Edit: Regarding that 2001 article, it's just an article about a lawsuit being filed, which anyone can do whether they have a case or not. I haven't yet found that case, but I found a similar one from 2005:

Just saw your edit as well. Yes, people can feel free to file whatever claims they want, but the key thing is that there is a pattern of allegations. It is the very nature of discrimination claims that they are excessively hard to prove unless you have recordings or someone willing to act as a witness and burn themselves along with you on blacklists.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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> It absolutely is a problem Apple has, judging by at least three lawsuits which I could find in literally 30 seconds of Googling [1][2][3] - and it isn't just recent claims either, I could find one that went back to 2001 [4]. You're moving the goalposts. In your opinion, is being "very Trumpian" a problem that Apple has? Is Tim Cook running around in a MAGA hat and I totally did not notice? Edit: Regarding that 2001…

> You're moving the goalposts. In your opinion, is being "very Trumpian" a problem that Apple has? Is Tim Cook running around in a MAGA hat and I totally did not notice? I never set goalposts to begin with ffs. The post my original reply was aimed at claimed that: > > I'm thinking those accusations are probably just slurs by someone with a grudge. To which I replied that essentially every organization will have bad a…

> Just saw your edit as well. Yes, people can feel free to file whatever claims they want, but the key thing is that there is a pattern of allegations. It is the very nature of discrimination claims that they are excessively hard to prove unless you have recordings or someone willing to act as a witness and burn themselves along with you on blacklists.

I don't know if you saw my subsequent edit (and long quotes from the court), but the case I found was frivolous.

A "pattern of allegations" doesn't prove anything if the allegations are lies. People lie all the time. They can even lie to themselves and convince themselves they were wronged to avoid dealing with their own problems.

Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org

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That's pretty good. Excuse the dumb question, but is that the same Michael Howard that runs MariaDB? If so, it just shows that you should always have another skill you can fall back on, such as street musician. (Personally I'm pretty handy at bagging groceries.)

Yes that is him.
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