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Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

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Post by siftrics »

richarddeasis wrote: post #87

I definitely regret not interviewing for jobs right away when I graduated a few months ago. At the moment I was thinking that in a few months the job market would still be hot. A few months ago, recruiters were reaching out to me. I started applying last week and a single job posting would have more than 1k applicants which was not the case months ago. On top of that, as a new grad, finding early career positions is…

You should be applying before you graduate, regardless of the status of the job market.

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

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Post by bumby »

richarddeasis wrote: post #87

I definitely regret not interviewing for jobs right away when I graduated a few months ago. At the moment I was thinking that in a few months the job market would still be hot. A few months ago, recruiters were reaching out to me. I started applying last week and a single job posting would have more than 1k applicants which was not the case months ago. On top of that, as a new grad, finding early career positions is…

Don’t be afraid to apply for jobs that are (slightly) outside your experience range. Often, these posts are “pie in the sky” wants, not hard requirements.

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

#93

Post by ritzaco »

ed_balls wrote: post #69
madcaptenor wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine, I'll start. These threads are easily found in Google. January 2020: 244 wants to be hired / 697 hiring = 35% February 2020: 227 / 677 = 34% March 2020: 349 / 776 = 45% April 2020: 521 / 601 = 87% May 2020: 329 / 686 = 48% June 2020: 305 / 659 = 46% July 2020: 280 / 680 = 41% August 2020: 410 / 828 = 50% September 2020: 346 / 698 = 50% October 2020: 295 / 810 = 36% November 2020: 259 / 807 = 32% December 2020: 2…

Date | Who is hiring? | Who wants to be hired | ratio Jan 2018,911,84,0.09 Feb 2018,1070,76,0.07 Mar 2018,1187,85,0.07 Apr 2018,1084,142,0.13 May 2018,1198,69,0.05 Jun 2018,911,90,0.09 Jul 2018,860,122,0.14 Aug 2018,1025,83,0.08 Sep 2018,922,73,0.07 Oct 2018,1110,113,0.10 Nov 2018,1057,162,0.15 Dec 2018,954,182,0.18

Added (blindly) the above data to a spreadsheet with a graph here[0].

If anyone wants to add the 2019 data in a comment, I'll update the sheet.

[0] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bjPl3a0ciH6U9-OaLXGQ...

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

#94

Post by dalys »

dudul wrote: post #7

I have to say the amount of spam emails I'm getting from recruiters has decreased a lot - also I took a new job a few months ago so maybe I'm just being filtered out for now.

I quit to run my own businesses in the pandemic and the amount of LinkedIn messages have increased. I'm not even in tech anymore. I'm not getting a huge amount by any means, but during 2023 exactly one per week on average. If anyone in EU willing to relocate to Stockholm with background in backend python / full stack, I guess I can connect you to at least 10 recruiters. Many of them explicitly ask for referrals.

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

#95

Post by UlisesAC4 »

muzani wrote: post #9

I'd like to see data go all the way back to 2020, which was when some people said had the worst job market, because of the global lockdowns. But thanks for the data anyway. It does amuse me that we're still at more people hiring than looking for jobs. It's a stark contrast to other industries, where the power is normally in the hands of employers. Another thing to consider is that we've had layoffs recently, i.e. peo…

> It does amuse me that we're still at more people hiring than looking for jobs. It's a stark contrast to other industries, where the power is normally in the hands of employers.

I am sure that there is a huge margin of error. I have been looking a job for 5 months. Granted, I have not used Who's hiring threads religiously and I am sure that there are positions that I applied where something with better qualifications was chosen.

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

#96

Post by ayewo »

23B1 wrote: post #59

I'm a CRO/CGO – a suit. My biggest struggle with HN wants-to-be-hired threads is that I desperately want to work with small and midsize startups who are serious about growth – but most of the JDs are for technical jobs. Besides the usual job boards, is anyone aware of a good place to connect with founders who want a healthy hockey stick and holistic, healthy growth?

There are a number of job boards you could try including the ones run by DemandCurve and MKT1

https://jobs.demandcurve.com/

https://www.mkt1.co/marketers

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

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Post by SilasX »

colmanhumphrey wrote: post #90

Here is a chart going back to 2014: https://slight.run/graphs/colman/ratio_of_seekers_to_hirers_... Not quite as drastic as yours, but still not ideal. The underlying query and data source: https://slight.run/apps/colman/job_seekers_vs_job_hiring_hac... I'm restricting to top-level comments here, because those seem like a better proxy than all comments (excluding some discussion on a given post for example).

To answer what you were probably going to look for in the link: peak was March 2020 (1.19), when Covid got real, bottom was April 2018 (0.067), don't know any particular significance of that month.

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

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Post by jonnycoder »

ipaddr wrote: post #67
muzani wrote: post #9

I'd like to see data go all the way back to 2020, which was when some people said had the worst job market, because of the global lockdowns. But thanks for the data anyway. It does amuse me that we're still at more people hiring than looking for jobs. It's a stark contrast to other industries, where the power is normally in the hands of employers. Another thing to consider is that we've had layoffs recently, i.e. peo…

1/2 the companies posting jobs are not really hiring. There may be positions available if someone wows them or if they can find talent for cheap. The languages in demand change is probably more interesting. Less react positions, rails holding strong, python over taking, first time no php jobs offered.

I suspect this is the case as well. I've been applying for senior software engineer positions since mid January and I have way more auto-declines the next day after applying than I do initial phone calls with the company recruiter. I have a decent mix of experience and results in Python, C++ embedded, NodeJS, NoSQL dbs and CI/CD and I typically match 80% of the requirements+bonus requirements. One company even said last week that they liked my background because of the scope of work/results compared to faang resumes (I only have 2nd tier tech company experience).

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

#99

Post by varispeed »

dudul wrote: post #7

I have to say the amount of spam emails I'm getting from recruiters has decreased a lot - also I took a new job a few months ago so maybe I'm just being filtered out for now.

I am getting about the same number of offers, but the pay has dropped substantially.

It's depressing, as if I would be looking for a job now, I'd rather look for non-tech job that is paying less than selling my knowledge so cheap.

Alternatively I'd go off the market completely and use any safety nets I've been paying massive amounts of tax for years.

Re: Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is at a record high 0.94

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Post by the_af »

asynchronous wrote: post #74
dgb23 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which professions hire like this? I can’t think of any.

Yeah genuinely that reeks of someone who has never worked outside of tech. Job hiring sucks in a lot of fields but I would say the trades as a whole have this completely figured out and the process is nowhere near as obtuse as in tech.

Oh, I meant that we had it easy, not that the hiring process for other jobs looks similar.
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