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Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Post by more_corn »

primitivesuave wrote: post #85
nebula8804 wrote: post #63

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>If you admit to ever using LSD or psychedelics, even one time, you will be automatically disqualified from serving in the military or law enforcement (go figure). Is this documented anywhere? I have gone on a psilocybin retreat and have considered a career in the air force in the distant future.

Anecdotal from reliable sources, but it sounds like a holistic evaluation. If you’re a strong candidate otherwise, they will overlook drug experiments but not drug addictions.

You still need a waiver.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Post by zaccusl »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #136
93po wrote: post #123

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i assume he's saying people who join the military are racist misogynists and because the military can't appeal to this anymore, people don't want to join anymore

You seem upset, as if what you said is blatantly false. I wouldn't say racist (?? Black and white men fighting together are racist?) mysoginists, but tough men that aren't posterboys for your designated driver would probably be a good description. If you want a competent fighting force, you have to appeal to tough young men. You don't do that by putting a dude in a dress on your promo material, to put it crassly. Men…

Have you ever served? In combat? I have, USMC infantry. I want a professional fighting force with smart of professional fighters and support. Yes, you need mental toughness. But if you are so mentally weak that you can't handle a course on sexual harassment then you are not mentally tough. You need a "non-woke" safe-space.

What you describe is what Russia wants and needs. Look how well that is working out for them.

The military gets stronger by having a disciplined, smart fighting force. Not some frat-house where being "manly" is the only requirement.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Post by zaccusl »

tim333 wrote: post #121
xk_id wrote: post #95

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There is nothing particularly “soft” about cannabis. As mounting modern evidence shows, it suppresses REM sleep (and by extension the consolidation of procedural learning undertaken during the day) and it lowers executive function, concentration and motivation. These effects also persist for some time after use is stopped, even if they are eventually reversed.

It's "soft" relative to stuff like cocaine, heroin, crack, meth etc which muck you up more. It's probably kind of a par with alcohol in terms of problems caused.

On par? I mean, alcohol will literally kill you if you drink too much or have prolonged exposure. Alcohol makes you sick and fat.

If anything, alcohol is far worse than cannibas. Time will tell what effects it has on the wider population, but keep in mind cannibas use has been pretty wide spread for centuries and has been legal in many places in the US for over a decade.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Post by 93po »

zaccusl wrote: post #142
friend_and_foe wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem upset, as if what you said is blatantly false. I wouldn't say racist (?? Black and white men fighting together are racist?) mysoginists, but tough men that aren't posterboys for your designated driver would probably be a good description. If you want a competent fighting force, you have to appeal to tough young men. You don't do that by putting a dude in a dress on your promo material, to put it crassly. Men…

Have you ever served? In combat? I have, USMC infantry. I want a professional fighting force with smart of professional fighters and support. Yes, you need mental toughness. But if you are so mentally weak that you can't handle a course on sexual harassment then you are not mentally tough. You need a "non-woke" safe-space. What you describe is what Russia wants and needs. Look how well that is working out for them. T…

I love this response

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Post by foxyv »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #128
Gud wrote: post #87

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They considered using L.S.D. as an aerosol on enemy troops, but IIRC there were problems with using it, don't remember exactly what. It would also incapacitate friendly troops or some agreement was signed forbidding its usage. Long time ago since I went down this rabbit hole last time...

Right, but there are known agents that are incredibly legal. I am still trying to imagine the scenario in which making the enemy ineffective was a superior option to dead. I guess the non lethal option lowers the risk of friendly fire? If nothing else, the double edged sword application of chemical weapons was well known at this point.

The ideal scenario for a weapon is immediate, non-lethal, incapacitation. The holy grail of weapons technology is the stun setting on the Star Trek phaser.

Making an incapacitated enemy dead: Easy.

Making a dead civilian/ally un-dead: Necromancy.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Post by nebula8804 »

pxc wrote: post #125
nebula8804 wrote: post #66

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>Looks like a bunch of antisemites and racists found the video and hit it with their comments at once. Not too sure about that. Seems like a positive sign that people are not putting up with all the BS surrounding Israel anymore. This is what gives me a shred of hope: that thanks to the internet, people are questioning existing alliances and asking why? In the distant future as terrible states such as Israel and Saud…

To be clear: I agree with the general anti-war attitude and I've never supported any decision the US has made to go to war in my lifetime. I think the US alliance with Saudi Arabia is disgraceful and I am an anti-Zionist. But the comments on that video paint Israel not as a shameful alliance or a settler-colonial state but as an entity conspiratorially pulling the strings whenever the US is involved in a war elsewher…

>But the comments on that video paint Israel not as a shameful alliance or a settler-colonial state but as an entity conspiratorially pulling the strings whenever the US is involved in a war elsewhere. It's not a substantive or veridical critique, and it would be alarming if that were in fact the predominant critique of US involvement in wars overseas as GP insinuates.

Israel definitely has some say in US foreign policy through their pull with the religious right and the influential pro-Israel lobby.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Post by bnjms »

hotpotamus wrote: post #106
bnjms wrote: post #10

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Re: #2 that’s ridiculous. Diagnosis like ADHD might as well be diagnosable personality traits.

ADHD is the weirdest diagnosis out there in my opinion. I know I can certainly concentrate better when I'm taking amphetamines of one sort or other. Does that mean that I have ADHD or does it just mean that that's what amphetamines do?

My belief is that amphetamines help everybody focus and the powers that be needed a story that’s just so to rationalize giving drugs to kids. But the benefit for people with ADHD is greater than the benefit to people with normal amounts of concentration/executive function.

What I want to know is do people “without adhd” also feel the sense of peace and calm with a cessation of the need to constantly fidget and move?

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