Never thought that the solution to America's Military Industrial complex would be McDonalds. Now when the Joint Chiefs talk of megatons they are talking about recruits weight not weapon payload.
Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
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Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
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The whole point of that experiment was to see how a military unit behaves on acid. Why shouldn’t they be marching the soldiers?
Is this a thing that requires testing? Do they have units run drills on all common recreational drugs? I could see some merit in evaluating stimulants, but what is the expected gain from most anything else?
If it were used as an environmental toxin, would it cause the soldiers to begin shooting at each other?
Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
#83Joining the military means giving up most of your civilian rights laid out in the Bill of Rights, in exchange for pay and training. Historically, this has often been a pretty good deal for those without other economic options. However, if you think the country's leaders are going to send you off to get killed in poorly thought-out and reckless adventures for dubious reasons, then giving up those rights starts looking…
What do you mean regarding Ukraine? Do you mean the US should have persuaded Ukraine to give up some of their land? I don’t fully understand what you mean with ‘negotiated settlement’. All I know is these ‘negotiating’ strategies don’t work with tyrannical regimes. Germany tried and failed. Trying to bring in China into the world economy also didn’t seem to make them give up their hunger to swallow Taiwan. The mindse…
He's taking the Kissinger approach with spheres of influence and allowing smaller nations to be held by "world powers" like poker chips to avoid M. A. D. situations, "you have your satellites and I have mine".
Personally I think that mode of thinking and the context that birthed it are long dead but some people still subscribe to it 30 years after the Soviet Union imploded for... some reason I'm sure.
Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Coffee: no Alcohol: It includes a level of alcohol abuse, but I'm not sure how they draw the line.
Good question. I'd say if you're drinking during work, it's a problem. If you're not, hopefully they have some way of proving you're abusing it rather than making unfounded accusations. It seems like people will believe anything these days.
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Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regarding #1, you can get a waiver for past cannabis use if you weren't a habitual user (by self admission) and never faced any legal action (distribution, possession, etc) in regards to cannabis. If you have ever distributed any drug (even so far as splitting the cost of drugs with a roommate) you cannot enlist. The enlistment screeners are surprisingly effective at getting people to admit things they did over a dec…
>If you admit to ever using LSD or psychedelics, even one time, you will be automatically disqualified from serving in the military or law enforcement (go figure). Is this documented anywhere? I have gone on a psilocybin retreat and have considered a career in the air force in the distant future.
Anecdotal from reliable sources, but it sounds like a holistic evaluation. If you’re a strong candidate otherwise, they will overlook drug experiments but not drug addictions.
Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
#86Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
The whole point of that experiment was to see how a military unit behaves on acid. Why shouldn’t they be marching the soldiers?
Is this a thing that requires testing? Do they have units run drills on all common recreational drugs? I could see some merit in evaluating stimulants, but what is the expected gain from most anything else?
They considered using L.S.D. as an aerosol on enemy troops, but IIRC there were problems with using it, don't remember exactly what. It would also incapacitate friendly troops or some agreement was signed forbidding its usage. Long time ago since I went down this rabbit hole last time...
Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
#88Joining the military means giving up most of your civilian rights laid out in the Bill of Rights, in exchange for pay and training. Historically, this has often been a pretty good deal for those without other economic options. However, if you think the country's leaders are going to send you off to get killed in poorly thought-out and reckless adventures for dubious reasons, then giving up those rights starts looking…
What do you mean regarding Ukraine? Do you mean the US should have persuaded Ukraine to give up some of their land? I don’t fully understand what you mean with ‘negotiated settlement’. All I know is these ‘negotiating’ strategies don’t work with tyrannical regimes. Germany tried and failed. Trying to bring in China into the world economy also didn’t seem to make them give up their hunger to swallow Taiwan. The mindse…
I have to think that especially the China/Taiwan issue has quite a bit of historical baggage, because it can be read as the slow-motion failure to finish the prosecution of a very "internal" political process.
Can we imagine such a scenario applied to a Western nation? Imagine if the US Civil War ended up with a "stub Confederacy"-- a few counties in Virginia still answering to Jefferson Davis. Or if one German state decided to carry on as the DDR after 1990. Now reinforce this by having major world powers declare an effectively limitless economic and military backstop to preserve this remnant-- pretty explicitly as a counter to the "victorious" nation's increasing power and importance.
It would be a festering political issue for decades if not longer, no matter how many political and economic favours were splashed to "make up" for it.
Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regarding #1, you can get a waiver for past cannabis use if you weren't a habitual user (by self admission) and never faced any legal action (distribution, possession, etc) in regards to cannabis. If you have ever distributed any drug (even so far as splitting the cost of drugs with a roommate) you cannot enlist. The enlistment screeners are surprisingly effective at getting people to admit things they did over a dec…
Oddly enough if you joined the British Army in days of yore you might have found yourself ordered to take LSD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziqpwkhqTRs ( Likely also true for other countries, eg: USofA, etc )
This is amazing, I cried laughing. “This man nearly succeeded in felling a tree using only a spade”
Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military
#90Joining the military means giving up most of your civilian rights laid out in the Bill of Rights, in exchange for pay and training. Historically, this has often been a pretty good deal for those without other economic options. However, if you think the country's leaders are going to send you off to get killed in poorly thought-out and reckless adventures for dubious reasons, then giving up those rights starts looking…
What do you mean regarding Ukraine? Do you mean the US should have persuaded Ukraine to give up some of their land? I don’t fully understand what you mean with ‘negotiated settlement’. All I know is these ‘negotiating’ strategies don’t work with tyrannical regimes. Germany tried and failed. Trying to bring in China into the world economy also didn’t seem to make them give up their hunger to swallow Taiwan. The mindse…
> I don’t fully understand what you mean with ‘negotiated settlement’.
He may be thinking of the agreement that Putin and Zelensky almost came to in the 2nd week of the war. The Israeli prime minister, Naftali Bennett, initiated contact between the leaders and thinks they were nearly at a settlement when Washington/London intervened to block it. (From about time 2:20:00, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9tLDeWBzs)