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Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by millimeterman »

operatingthetan wrote: post #121
elcritch wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps for non-ADHD people. There's a common meme on ADHD channels about forgetting to take it and how hard it is to remember to take it daily. Some days you just don't want to take it and straightjacket your brain. For me getting off a regular dosage just caused a bit of extra sleepiness for a week or two. I drank like 2 redbulls a day for a bit. There is a bit of addictiveness because its nice to be able to functi…

>Its nothing nearly as addictive or habit forming as SSRI's that are given out like candy. SSRIs aren't considered addictive at all. As I mentioned to someone else, please take an earnest visit to https://www.reddit.com/r/StopSpeeding/ and consider the idea that a lot of our ADHD peers struggle with stimulants. >Perhaps for non-ADHD people. I've been diagnosed with ADHD twice (childhood and adult) and I can say from…

Stimulant addiction is certainly real, but addiction recovery groups are obviously going to self-select for people that have/had a problem. The reality is that there are millions of people who take ADHD medicine at therapeutic doses (which should _not_ induce a high, FWIW) for years without developing an addiction or needing dose increases.

Knowing the potential risks of stimulants is good, but unduly scaring people or over-restricting access for the majority who use them properly is not helpful.

Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by operatingthetan »

millimeterman wrote: post #131
operatingthetan wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Its nothing nearly as addictive or habit forming as SSRI's that are given out like candy. SSRIs aren't considered addictive at all. As I mentioned to someone else, please take an earnest visit to https://www.reddit.com/r/StopSpeeding/ and consider the idea that a lot of our ADHD peers struggle with stimulants. >Perhaps for non-ADHD people. I've been diagnosed with ADHD twice (childhood and adult) and I can say from…

Stimulant addiction is certainly real, but addiction recovery groups are obviously going to self-select for people that have/had a problem. The reality is that there are millions of people who take ADHD medicine at therapeutic doses (which should _not_ induce a high, FWIW) for years without developing an addiction or needing dose increases. Knowing the potential risks of stimulants is good, but unduly scaring people…

>Stimulant addiction is certainly real, but addiction recovery groups are obviously going to self-select for people that have/had a problem.

Please re-read how I presented that link carefully. I've encountered several people here claiming that stimulants don't get you high and that they aren't addictive. The point of sending them to that sub was to demonstrate that others have a different experience. I'm not making a larger argument here that they are harmful for everyone, just that they aren't magic drugs and they might have glowy feelings about them for a less comfortable reason than they think.

People downvoting me for stating simple known facts about these drugs is troubling...

Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by junofan »

operatingthetan wrote: post #132
millimeterman wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stimulant addiction is certainly real, but addiction recovery groups are obviously going to self-select for people that have/had a problem. The reality is that there are millions of people who take ADHD medicine at therapeutic doses (which should _not_ induce a high, FWIW) for years without developing an addiction or needing dose increases. Knowing the potential risks of stimulants is good, but unduly scaring people…

>Stimulant addiction is certainly real, but addiction recovery groups are obviously going to self-select for people that have/had a problem. Please re-read how I presented that link carefully. I've encountered several people here claiming that stimulants don't get you high and that they aren't addictive. The point of sending them to that sub was to demonstrate that others have a different experience. I'm not making a…

There’s really no link between your average person taking 5–10 mg of Adderall twice a day and a support group for people smoking upwards of a gram of meth a day.

Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by firemanx »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #62

I currently have to drive 45-60 minutes one way to get to a pharmacy in a small town to get my adderall filled. I’m in downtown Seattle and it’s the closest option. I assume my pharmacy only has it because it’s mostly an older retirement community and they likely don’t have many adderall users. It’s massively fucking annoying to take nearly three hours out of my day to pick up my meds. And it’s massively fucking anno…

I have a friend in the Seattle area who has been trying to find it even within an hours drive. Do you mind sharing where you found inventory?

Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by sgarland »

rozal wrote: post #118
BaculumMeumEst wrote: post #58

for the past decade+ i’ve just lived with crippling adhd and dealt with it as best as i could. and boy do i mean crippling. i feel like dependency on a prescription stimulant is asking for trouble, at least for me personally.

Stop taking it. I’ve been diagnosed three times. At ages 6 , 18, and 23. Taking every drug. Adderall, vyvance, strattera, etc. The diagnosing is hogwash. There isn’t a scientific test. All ‘psychiatrists’ do is take you in for a visit or two, listen to your story, and write you the prescription. I used to be ‘unable to focus’, and took pills for it. I even see people addicted to them to the point they take sleeping m…

> All ‘psychiatrists’ do is take you in for a visit or two

Also, you know, multiple years of intense study.

Does eating well and exercise matter? Of course. I feel way better when I'm in the gym regularly. It does not in any way fix the problem with my brain chemistry, though - medication does.

You do you, but don't shit on people who've finally found a way to be normal.

Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by operatingthetan »

junofan wrote: post #133
operatingthetan wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Stimulant addiction is certainly real, but addiction recovery groups are obviously going to self-select for people that have/had a problem. Please re-read how I presented that link carefully. I've encountered several people here claiming that stimulants don't get you high and that they aren't addictive. The point of sending them to that sub was to demonstrate that others have a different experience. I'm not making a…

There’s really no link between your average person taking 5–10 mg of Adderall twice a day and a support group for people smoking upwards of a gram of meth a day.

You're mischaracterizing that subreddit. Here's a link to just the prescription stimulant posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/StopSpeeding/search?sort=new&restri...

Please be more careful and honest in your assertions. My point is that there are people who struggle with abusing prescription stimulants. I did not make a comparison or suggest a link between harder stims like your strawman suggests.

A 200lb person can get a decent high from as little as 30mg of adderall.

Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by sgarland »

To anyone struggling to fill an Adderall script, look into Adzenys. It's literally the exact same drug, with a different release mechanism (orally disintegrating tablet instead of a capsule you swallow). It's also not nearly at the same demand level, so it's easy to fill.

Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by tadfisher »

showdeddd wrote: post #25
junofan wrote: post #20

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ADHD is an ADA-recognized disability. I doubt you’d support secret limits on mobility scooter orders because college kids sometimes steal golf carts. Why is this different?

Because Adderall is 100% pure speed. A handful of Adderalls is more fun than a bag of cocaine (which is going to be more like 5% purity and adulterated with god knows what).

I take one pill a day, not a handful. Please stop this.

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Post by NotPractical »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #30
symlinkk wrote: post #9

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What’s the big deal? The definition of ADHD is extremely fuzzy anyway. Why not just let whoever take them that wants them?

Well, IMO, it puts everyone into a mental arms-race reminiscent of steroid use in bodybuilding competitions. If you told me I was going to take a standardized test where only the top 10% make the cut, and everyone serious about winning is taking a mental PED, then yeah I am going to feel intrinsic pressure to step-up and also engage in that mental arms race. I would've been just as happy to not do that if I were give…

> I am concerned about letting stimulants loose on the population.

They already have been. It's not hard at all to get an Adderall prescription. Just Google "ADHD symptoms" (the main one being trouble focusing) then go to your doctor and tell them you have those.

Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by operatingthetan »

nemothekid wrote: post #76
showdeddd wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Adderall is 100% pure speed. A handful of Adderalls is more fun than a bag of cocaine (which is going to be more like 5% purity and adulterated with god knows what).

> A handful of Adderalls is more fun than a bag of cocaine Yeah, this is fear mongering; and I doubt any abuse you are seeing is actually happening on any sort of scale. To imply adderall is more fun than Cocaine/Cocaethylene is a completely strange assertion given cocaine's continued and greater penetration despite the fact it's a highly controlled schedule 2 drug. If you could have more fun with adderall, why would…

> given cocaine's continued and greater penetration despite the fact it's a highly controlled schedule 2 drug.

Not to take the wind out of your sails but adderall is also schedule II.

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