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Re: Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Post by gonzo41 »

defrost wrote: post #9

In related news; backstory [1]: Australia is the biggest supplier of energy and key minerals to Japan, reflecting Australia’s position as a reliable, safe and competitive producer of raw resources. Australia provides around two-thirds of Japan’s coal, and a third of Japan’s LNG imports. Australia also provides about 60 per cent of Japan’s iron ore imports. and, just the other day [2]: The head of Japan's biggest oil…

Takayuki Ueda is just trying to bully the ALP into making sure nothing rocks the boat for the LNG companies. It's worked in the past with the mining sector and the carbon tax. But after the 2020 bushfires and then the flooding. Most people in Australia are pretty happy to see movement on CC.

It's just bluster from him, but it's bad that japanese resolve is breaking away from Ukraine.

Re: Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Post by boeingUH60 »

csomar wrote: post #35

The next few weeks/months are going to be very interesting. Saudi Arabia has doubled down on its new direction. Japan/EU seems at edge with the war in Ukraine. China is making new moves in the global financial scene. The US has accumulated significant political debt in the recent years. They have significantly abused their position with the US dollars hegemony. In this recent conflict, the cost burdened Europe and th…

Maybe the US can finally invade Saudi Arabia, lol

Edit: Was just making a joke. I’m not a warmonger.

Re: Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Post by pastacacioepepe »

ericmay wrote: post #33
user3939382 wrote: post #23

Anyone who's been paying attention I believe would agree that our foreign policy around Ukraine has come at a huge cost not only to us financially and economically, but also to our foreign relations. Under this conflict our relations with China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia -- these are important partners -- have degraded. Having watched that unfold, this isn't a surprise to me.

Well. China relationship is strained for many reasons, Ukraine and their general support for Russia conducting the war is just icing on the cake. This has strained Chinese relations with multiple countries though (UK, EU members, etc.). India I’m not seeing much in the way of change. The US at least didn’t really do anything different with India buying Russian oil. US relations with South American companies are varia…

On the contrary this looks like the beginning of the end of USA global hegemony. The dollar relevance is degrading and while the west is siding closer with the USA, the rest of the world is distancing itself from them.

> On the other hand, the US has shored up massive support from all of Europe ex Belarus, Japan

Regarding Japan this very news article contradicts you somehow.

> Finland joins NATO tomorrow.

Finland is insignificant from a geopolitical point of view. Its joining NATO only makes NATO less secure as a whole, rather than strenghtening it.

Re: Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Post by csomar »

ceejayoz wrote: post #34
user3939382 wrote: post #23

Anyone who's been paying attention I believe would agree that our foreign policy around Ukraine has come at a huge cost not only to us financially and economically, but also to our foreign relations. Under this conflict our relations with China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia -- these are important partners -- have degraded. Having watched that unfold, this isn't a surprise to me.

US-NATO/EU relations, in contrast, have rarely been stronger, and a long-standing US goal of increasing European defense spending has now become feasible. China and the Saudis are unlikely to somehow turn into genuine friends, and in China's case specifically the unified stance in Ukraine (as well as the "it's harder to invade than you might think" message) sends a bit of a message in the case of Taiwan. The trade-of…

> China and the Saudis are unlikely to somehow turn into genuine friends

China and the Saudis are the perfect match. Both are authoritarian regimes that do business. China needs liquid energy and the Saudi needs access to stuff and capital markets. The Chinese can now provide an alternative.

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Post by vegabook »

st4lz wrote: post #30
rayiner wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At least one middling positive of the invasion has been a litmus test for the levels of integrity of various countries. Russia annexed Crimea almost a decade ago. If you haven't read the writing on the wall and maneuvered independence you're incompetent or immoral. I can’t really parse this. Why should Japan care about Crimea or Ukraine?

There is a shocking reality of how short-sighted and strategically shallow the opinions of people may be, even very literate ones with unlimited access to information. There are very long tensions between Japan and Russia about the Kuril Islands, that both countries have a claim on. It is very possible, that the same vague claims used on annexing Crimea today, or Donbas, would be used against Japan, and may not stop…

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Post by GenerWork »

ceejayoz wrote: post #34
user3939382 wrote: post #23

Anyone who's been paying attention I believe would agree that our foreign policy around Ukraine has come at a huge cost not only to us financially and economically, but also to our foreign relations. Under this conflict our relations with China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia -- these are important partners -- have degraded. Having watched that unfold, this isn't a surprise to me.

US-NATO/EU relations, in contrast, have rarely been stronger, and a long-standing US goal of increasing European defense spending has now become feasible. China and the Saudis are unlikely to somehow turn into genuine friends, and in China's case specifically the unified stance in Ukraine (as well as the "it's harder to invade than you might think" message) sends a bit of a message in the case of Taiwan. The trade-of…

>a long-standing US goal of increasing European defense spending has now become feasible.

Call me when every European nation actually hits their required NATO spending amount. Until then, talk is cheap.

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Post by blibble »

gatlin wrote: post #11
ben_w wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at OSM, the sea borders of Russia and Japan touch. That seems like a good reason for Japan to care about what Russia is doing to another country it shares a border with.

Is the unstated assumption here that Russia is mindlessly belligerent and going to attack any neighbor for any reason?

what do you mean assumption?

they have attacked several neighbours for no reason and have stated they wish to "reclaim" others

Re: Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Post by EGreg »

ben_w wrote: post #24
gatlin wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the unstated assumption here that Russia is mindlessly belligerent and going to attack any neighbor for any reason?

Mindlessly belligerent, yes. "Any reason" is a bit of a stretch — I doubt Putin has a dice with country names on it — but given how dumb it was to invade Ukraine, it's not unreasonable to assume he's dumb enough to try Japan.

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Post by imwithstoopid »

pastacacioepepe wrote: post #43
ericmay wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well. China relationship is strained for many reasons, Ukraine and their general support for Russia conducting the war is just icing on the cake. This has strained Chinese relations with multiple countries though (UK, EU members, etc.). India I’m not seeing much in the way of change. The US at least didn’t really do anything different with India buying Russian oil. US relations with South American companies are varia…

On the contrary this looks like the beginning of the end of USA global hegemony. The dollar relevance is degrading and while the west is siding closer with the USA, the rest of the world is distancing itself from them. > On the other hand, the US has shored up massive support from all of Europe ex Belarus, Japan Regarding Japan this very news article contradicts you somehow. > Finland joins NATO tomorrow. Finland is…

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