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Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by greenicon »

rekoil wrote: post #170
jalada wrote: post #164

When I was in Paris in 2019 I tried to use their e-scooters and it was nearly impossible because angry locals had sharpie-d over every barcode so you couldn’t scan them. I’m surprised the companies haven’t left already.

Huh, that would be pretty effective I imagine, and sounds like a classic French approach to the problem, low effort, high impact. But wouldn't the rental companies just switch to NFC-scanning? I know most of the bikes in Sweden technically have it, even though I don't think many actually use it because our QR codes aren't being defaced and it's just easier.

The QR code is usually just for easier use, you can also unlock them in the apps via selecting the vehicles on the map.

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Post by anhner »

renewiltord wrote: post #187
easytiger wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great for the fraction of a percent of Londoners who use them, terrible for every one else

I just walk past them when I'm not using them. Very easy. Hardly a problem.

Perhaps because you don't have a disability or a stroller with a young child so that you can comfortably and effortlessly avoid them...

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Post by TylerE »

ChrisRR wrote: post #206
TylerE wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rental escooters are a MENACE - and i'm not old either - just been nearly mown down by one several times.

I hear so often from people who were "nearly" mown down, but barely ever from someone who was actually mown down

Because they're dead?

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by TylerE »

anhner wrote: post #199
fsh wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have never had an issue despite living in a large european city. Maybe the reason is that, unlike some people, I don't blindly step into bike lanes.

lmao this guy thinks scooters only ride on bike lanes

Usual HN cycling c-j on full display.

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Post by Shorel »

extr wrote: post #194

I visited Paris last year and had a very cute midnight scooter ride with my girlfriend down the Seine. It was like out of a movie. But the ride costed like $17 each, it would have been cheaper to just get an Uber directly back to our hotel. And I no doubt caused some french drivers/pedestrians some grief because I had no idea where I was going most of the time. So frankly I get it. But this makes me ask the question:…

Yep. I tried them once, in a different country.

It was fun and safe.

Price is the reason I have not repeated the experience. It is as expensive as a taxi, without the convenience of it.

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Post by alpaca128 »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #189
apichat wrote: post #171

With 7.45% turnout, it's more of an elderly's bad joke. Elderly and wealthy people who have been brainwashed by television and want to continue using their murderous and polluting cars and taxis. Other people are more concerns by ecological problems and the rise in the pension age.

> With 7.45% turnout, it's more of an elderly's bad joke. Elderly and wealthy people who have been brainwashed by television and want to continue using their murderous and polluting cars and taxis. I don't know about Paris, but the from other cities I've seen it's probably the general poor behaviour of rental scooter hirers that's the problem. Ignoring any dangerous riding the scooters are just so poorly parked - clu…

The scooters are parked like that by the companies themselves too, at least where I live. Why would they penalize people for doing the same?

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Post by apichat »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #189
apichat wrote: post #171

With 7.45% turnout, it's more of an elderly's bad joke. Elderly and wealthy people who have been brainwashed by television and want to continue using their murderous and polluting cars and taxis. Other people are more concerns by ecological problems and the rise in the pension age.

> With 7.45% turnout, it's more of an elderly's bad joke. Elderly and wealthy people who have been brainwashed by television and want to continue using their murderous and polluting cars and taxis. I don't know about Paris, but the from other cities I've seen it's probably the general poor behaviour of rental scooter hirers that's the problem. Ignoring any dangerous riding the scooters are just so poorly parked - clu…

> So poorly parked

Cars are well parked in Paris but way more bulky and streets are unpleasant and dangerous because of them : https://www.google.com/maps/@48.8857511,2.3873659,3a,75y,80....

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Post by vetinari »

klodolph wrote: post #128
ouid wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't add a lane for every "new" mode of transportation...

It sounds like the parent comment is talking about expanding & improving bike lanes, rather than forcing electric scooters into car lanes (where they are at risk), undersized bike lanes (where they endanger bicyclists), or banning them outright (where you’re now stuck with more demand for car traffic).

Yes, but the comment you are responding too notes, that city streets are not stretchable, so you cannot add full-sized lanes for everyone's new toy.

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Post by epolanski »

extr wrote: post #194

I visited Paris last year and had a very cute midnight scooter ride with my girlfriend down the Seine. It was like out of a movie. But the ride costed like $17 each, it would have been cheaper to just get an Uber directly back to our hotel. And I no doubt caused some french drivers/pedestrians some grief because I had no idea where I was going most of the time. So frankly I get it. But this makes me ask the question:…

Stats show that escooters don't even curb emissions, as the people who use them are pedestrians who would've walked anyway.
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