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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by MikusR »

josephcsible wrote: post #48
judge2020 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What configs are you talking about? Because most things in the official UIs are carefully crafted to be permanent user preferences that windows updates don't touch.

If this is a good-faith question, then I assume you don't use Windows as your primary OS. After most major Windows updates, you'll see new crapware in the Start menu and get nagged to set up a Microsoft account and have your default programs switched back to the Microsoft ones, no matter how many times you said "no, and never ask again" before.

Windows is the only desktop OS i use and that does not happen.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by newaccount74 »

Hard_Space wrote: post #351
localghost3000 wrote: post #167

I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

Browser support (including Safari support) is the main reason why expensive desktop Macs eventually become paperweights, as has happened to my father in the last year. Safari, Firefox, Chrome, all stuck at ancient and insecure versions, with the web slowly breaking on these older browsers. Despite how glossy and powerful the machine still is, if it doesn't have a working web browser it's only semi-valid. Watched my D…

Open Core Legacy patcher might help get a few extra years out of your Mac: https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by birdman3131 »

It is nuts how refreshing a Server install setup is. It has a single screen asking for a password and boom you are at a desktop.

(Ok so there is the what disk are you installing to and the what version are you installing if you don't have a key but still.)

If so many programs did not complain that I need to pay business prices for having a server OS installed I would much rather run a $50 copy of server 22 off ebay than 10/11.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by ummonk »

lannisterstark wrote: post #182
throwaway675309 wrote: post #72

"I have never looked back since. I stopped buying new laptops every few months and got myself a new MacBook every few years instead. I stopped counting crashes and dealing with anti-virus" This is a quote around them using Win 7/8. There's definitely some hyperbole going on here, because I and many others found Windows 7 to be a relatively stable environment and I say this as a prolific user of Photoshop, visual stud…

I have a thinkpad T430 that's still going strong closer to a decade. Works fine, is fast etc.

To be fair, Thinkpads were built to last back in those days. Won't get the same mileage out of other laptops (or even modern Thinkpads).

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by herbst »

localghost3000 wrote: post #167

I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

I've only ever had second hand ThinkPad T series laptops and a brand new 2015 MBP. The MBP had by far the most hardware issues of any devices I ever had (second screen only on power, running hot enough to cook on it, battery life was mediocre from the start, ...). Every single ThinkPad I ever owned is still ready in my drawer. My ~15yo T420 still has like 6 hours battery life and works like a charm

The build quality thing is only true if you compare them with cheaper laptops. In the same price class you find more interesting devices IMO

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by ummonk »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #65

Setup your 10 year old with bleeding edge Arch Linux, add a script to automatically update nightly (or even hourly lol), and give them a secondary device like a tablet loaded up with access to arch wiki, every man page, etc. but nothing else. They will be an absolute Linux wizard in months and maybe a core contributor soon after.

Setup your 10 year old with a ChatGPT and Midjourney subscription instead so they become a talented prompt engineer instead of a systems engineering neckbeard.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by blueorange8 »

CodeCompost wrote: post #360
foobarbecue wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm fairly happy with my situation: Windows 10 work machine, I do almost everything in WSL. WSL is pretty impressive these days, with native graphical support and decent filesystem and device interoperability. Windows has come a long way; it has a decent terminal now and utilities like ssh and curl have been added to stock cmd.exe . I've been able to turn off all the awful ad stuff. Never crashes, and I can do vertic…

The last update broke WSL for me.

Do wsl --update as administrator

If doesn't work the first time try a few times

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by somat »

apatheticonion wrote: post #332

It's really sad that there is no where for us to go in the desktop OS space right now. I, weirdly, daily drive all 3 OSes. MacOS; Work issued laptop and longish-time user (about 6 years with it). Windows; Desktop PC mostly for games. I've been using Windows since I could walk. Fedora; Desktop PC, dual booted which I use for most everything else. I cannot believe how much of a dumpster fire Windows has become. From th…

I get you, I have an openbsd desktop setup I love to death. It just makes me feel empowered compared to windows, I mean, realistically it's not. it is openbsd, it's slow, no commercial software, no backwards compatibility, old software is always needing to be recompiled, nobody else uses openbsd so it is hard to get help.

But it is so comfortable, I know where everything is, The system is simple enough for me to understand every part of it, the init system is a simple shell script, it is right there, you can read and understand everything there is to know about openbsd boot in an hour. My window manager is fully described in one man page.

Windows angers me up every time I use it, linux is a little better, but still has too much magic going on, I love this openbsd desktop setup. plus I have an old thinkpad x131 that runs obsd perfectly, I will be very sad when it dies.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by raverbashing »

apatheticonion wrote: post #332

It's really sad that there is no where for us to go in the desktop OS space right now. I, weirdly, daily drive all 3 OSes. MacOS; Work issued laptop and longish-time user (about 6 years with it). Windows; Desktop PC mostly for games. I've been using Windows since I could walk. Fedora; Desktop PC, dual booted which I use for most everything else. I cannot believe how much of a dumpster fire Windows has become. From th…

I'd think I'd be able to use and enjoy Windows again if I got a Server (or at least a 'Pro' version) to play with and could turn off all the crap they ship with it

But currently MacOS and Linux look more interesting

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by grumpyprole »

localghost3000 wrote: post #167

I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

If you buy a laptop with good Linux support, e.g. a ThinkPad. It should be fine for well over a decade in my experience. That is better value than Apple offer.
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