Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor. • Hacker News Board

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by chc » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 5:45 AM UTC

kdommeyer wrote: post #22

ars wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I quote the US government: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-definitions.html "and the year of first publication"

It appears that you're correct, but I'm still having a hard time believing that the legal departments of almost every major company make the same mistake. That makes me think that there is something we're missing.

I'm going to guess the missing thing is that the legal department wasn't the one that implemented the autoupdating date.

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by icehawk » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 6:15 AM UTC

runn1ng wrote: post #17

What IS interesting is that you can actually put in any other domain and find the results of malware diagnostics. http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://ww... http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://te... http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://ok... (one Czech discussion server I visit time from time) and so on.

Not just hostnames, you can plug in things like Autonomous System Numbers and get reports:

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:15169

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:6327

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:17464

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by hrktb » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 6:32 AM UTC

chc wrote: post #31

kdommeyer wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It appears that you're correct, but I'm still having a hard time believing that the legal departments of almost every major company make the same mistake. That makes me think that there is something we're missing.

I'm going to guess the missing thing is that the legal department wasn't the one that implemented the autoupdating date.

IANAL but for web pages, especialy dynamic ones, "the year of first publication" seems to be a flawed concept. You could as well say the page is first published everyday.

About the presence of rogue engineers playing with copyright notices at will in big companies, some yahoo properties go through the hassle of manually updating the copyright notice every year under the explicit request from the legal department.

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by vegardx » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 6:36 AM UTC

chc wrote: post #31

kdommeyer wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It appears that you're correct, but I'm still having a hard time believing that the legal departments of almost every major company make the same mistake. That makes me think that there is something we're missing.

I'm going to guess the missing thing is that the legal department wasn't the one that implemented the autoupdating date.

And when the legal department noticed the error they didn't want to go through all the hoops to get it fixed, as legally it has no meaning. Also, as we see many people seem to think that you need to update the year, so they might have done it on purpose even.

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by SquareWheel » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 7:00 AM UTC

kenrik wrote: post #11

Don't be evil.

Don't be a jackass.

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by Groxx » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 7:32 AM UTC

selvakn wrote: post #20

Repeat: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=934669

Not really - that's about Google listing Dropbox.com as suspicious. This is about Google listing Google as being a source / intermediary for malware.

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by cicloid » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 8:38 AM UTC

Don't be evil?

So, this is the final proof that the mantra has been forgotten and Google has move to the dark side… Is it?

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by Drakim » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 8:59 AM UTC

cicloid wrote: post #37

Don't be evil? So, this is the final proof that the mantra has been forgotten and Google has move to the dark side… Is it?

No, it shows exactly the opposite. Google doesn't except it's own servers from the malware search.

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by revorad » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 9:32 AM UTC

runn1ng wrote: post #17

What IS interesting is that you can actually put in any other domain and find the results of malware diagnostics. http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://ww... http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://te... http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://ok... (one Czech discussion server I visit time from time) and so on.

That can't be working right. It doesn't even check if the site parameter is actually a site - http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=gobbledyg...

Re: Google is reporting itself as a malware distributor.

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Post by pja » Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 11:25 AM UTC

revorad wrote: post #39

runn1ng wrote: post #17

What IS interesting is that you can actually put in any other domain and find the results of malware diagnostics. http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://ww... http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://te... http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://ok... (one Czech discussion server I visit time from time) and so on.

That can't be working right. It doesn't even check if the site parameter is actually a site - http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=gobbledyg...

Smells like...a bloomier filter!