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The day Windows died

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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by alluro2 »

DonHopkins wrote: post #32
josephcsible wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. It's not an either-or. Both of those are super anti-consumer. If you want an OS without anti-consumer "features", then install Linux.

Linux is only free if your time is worthless. ;)

I would happily submit ALL the time required to set up my perfectly-tailored Linux environment once and have it stay that way, just to not have Windows Update (or a random blue screen or 100% disk utilization etc) make my machine unavailable for 40 min just before a hugely important client demo one more time.

Various Linux distros still have ways to go in terms of polish and stability - but, anecdotally, the only times my Arch + KDE failed were when I did stupid things and went too far with tinkering without thinking.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by uw_rob »

muyuu wrote: post #58
doctor_eval wrote: post #13

Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…

both in MacOS and in Windows you are mere cattle there is no reason to keep using a walled, closed desktop OS in the 2020s

For better and worse everything productive is becoming OS agnostic. In 15 years I don't think many first-class applications will be truly native. They will be UI via HTML (webapps, electron, etc), CLIs based on POSIX, or company maintained UI frameworks which break OS styling conventions (JetBrains, etc).

OS agnosticism isn't just webapps taking over. Docker is making development from the ground up be OS agnostic.

I see this in my personal life as well. Every day I use MacOS, Linux, and Windows -- OS doesn't really matter much anymore to me.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by surgical_fire »

acegopher wrote: post #79
surgical_fire wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mint, because I'm a filthy casual :) I just love Mint, but I think any Debian based distro should work just fine for playing.

I started with Red Hat 5 bought in a box in 1998 from Microcenter, compiled my own kernel with the original Gentoo, ran XMonad under Arch, and need both hands to count the number of distros I've used as daily drivers. I have settled on Linux Mint. It just works, and looks good. From one "filthy casual" to another...

Haha, good to know that my laziness is not looked down :P

I used Ubuntu for a while, but fell in love with Mint. I really like how the interface looks, and how things are organized very intuitively. It feels so unfair to use it for free thay I donated 20 bucks, just to show appreciation.

Honestly, easily beats Windows or Mac OS for me.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by amiga-workbench »

bee_rider wrote: post #19

I use 10, but only as essentially a glorified console. Time for work? Time to boot into the Linux partition. I look vaguely fondly back on XP, 98, and 95… but at least, XP was pretty bad with frequent crashes. And of course the idea of security was added on afterwards, which was not really successful and kind of a dumb idea. Anyway I think the death-date of Windows is essentially a personal thing. It is the first day…

Same here, but I only boot into Windows for VR. I'm waiting for Valve to stop hyperfocusing on the Steam Deck and get SteamVR to behave well under Linux.

Once that happens I can bin Windows off for good.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by masswerk »

tonymet wrote: post #11

I’m not a big fan of these features and i turn them off right away. MS is going to where the consumers are. anyone under 30 will expect this content . imagine a 20 year old using windows 2k and the only real apps are notepad and ms paint . We give companies too much blame for providing consumers what they want. MS could do a better job with transparency and control of these features. But i don’t believe the blame is…

Haven't we already handed over phones for this? And, if you really want a phone, well, there are phones for this… (No need to put an end to computers. Why would you even transition to a computer to watch TikTok?)

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by nightfly »

hedora wrote: post #71
treve wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I built a gaming PC recently, so also new to Windows (normally Linux main). I was very surprised to see advertising in the operating system, for an operating system that people pay at least $190 CAD for. This issue is made worse by every hardware vendor needing to install their own bulky applications with their own popups. It's extremely noisy. My main take is that Microsoft has lost all pride in Windows and they're…

Try installing Linux + steam on it. I think you'll find it's a better environment for gaming.

For _some_ games and hardware combinations it's great. Some games are still windows only, and for some games the performance on Linux is abysmal, even with Proton.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by vt240 »

eganist wrote: post #16

Microsoft has a habit of flipping settings back to stock, but so far as I know, this has never happened for group policy. I've been using GPOs to reliably flip things off in Windows 10 Can't speak to 11 but I imagine it's the same; GPOs are one of the few things Microsoft wants to make sure never break with an update given the market that uses them.

Yeah, I really feel for people here. I've been maintaining GPOs since Windows 2003 in our small business, and I never run into any of the issues most of these posts are dealing with. I download the policy files, flip the settings around so they work for our employees, and forget what most users have to deal with... If there's not someone in the loop, dealing with the problems.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by Beached »

throwaway675309 wrote: post #72

"I have never looked back since. I stopped buying new laptops every few months and got myself a new MacBook every few years instead. I stopped counting crashes and dealing with anti-virus" This is a quote around them using Win 7/8. There's definitely some hyperbole going on here, because I and many others found Windows 7 to be a relatively stable environment and I say this as a prolific user of Photoshop, visual stud…

I have never had a laptop last less than 3 years. and I would definitely consider myself a power user. wtf is he doing to his laptops that they only last a few months?

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by thombles »

I bought my child an old Celeron running Windows 98SE, about 7 years in advance of when they’ll be ready for it. They’ll get the experience of playing with Paint, installing software from CDs, digital encyclopaedias, Commander Keen, all that good stuff without the internet. Then when they’re a bit older they can choose their own least-worst option.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by afavour »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #65

Setup your 10 year old with bleeding edge Arch Linux, add a script to automatically update nightly (or even hourly lol), and give them a secondary device like a tablet loaded up with access to arch wiki, every man page, etc. but nothing else. They will be an absolute Linux wizard in months and maybe a core contributor soon after.

And they won’t be able to complete their school work
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