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Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by bitcharmer »

bscphil wrote: post #117
bitcharmer wrote: post #63

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> I always keep running into unfixable problems like bad font rendering, slow webgl performance, ui glitches Been using Firefox on Linux as my daily driver and haven't seen any of that. Can you provide any examples?

Admittedly there are a lot of variables here, and this may not be a fair test at all, but it's interesting to me that Firefox on Windows loads many web pages much faster (relative to Chrome) than Firefox on Linux loads those same web pages (according to Mozilla's own metrics). Take a look at IMDb, Imgur, LinkedIn, Netflix, Outlook, Twitter, Wikipedia on the following pages. In all these cases, using Chrome's performa…

I didn't notice it before but I think you're absolutely right about these websites. Thanks for sharing

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by 1827162 »

qwertox wrote: post #44

> As we head towards Manifest V3 migration, we are intently monitoring comments from the developer community to help inform our timelines. Here's some feedback: If uBlock Origin loses full control over what gets loaded and what not, I will immediately uninstall Chrome from all my and my family's devices and switch back to Firefox, after a decade of using Chrome as the main browser. I will then also recommend the excl…

If they limit our ability to block ads in general, I am going to dramatically reduce my Internet usage even more than I am doing now. The Internet is bad enough already as a platform for enabling mass surveillance and social control. Time to start doing more offline things, such as experimenting with AI on my local computer. To you fascists at GCHQ and other government "thought police" agencies, try stopping that now... Especially a mass movement where many people decide to pull the plug, in the name of intellectual freedom.

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Post by gnicholas »

kmlx wrote: post #156
kivle wrote: post #52

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Using 2-3x as much battery as all other browsers on my Macbook is the dealbreaker for me.. I want to use the same browser on all systems when I move..

if you care about battery life then safari is the way to go.

I've used Brave on Mac, and even with 100+ tabs open, the battery life is on par with Safari (which has a much more limited extension library). Orion is also interesting, and is based on WebKit like Safari. But honestly I can't tell the difference between Brave/Orion/Safari in terms of battery life.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Post by rasz »

charcircuit wrote: post #122
jraph wrote: post #61

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uBlock Origin already has less control in Chrome than in Firefox. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

That list is outdated. For example Chrome supports cname uncloaking.

"Chrome now handles CNAME aliases _internally_" https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=106309... aka extensions still dont see it

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Post by eclipxe »

Kye wrote: post #34
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #6

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This seems to be a pattern among Google employees, as least as I'm seeing from the outside. They have their own company reality bubble, and clashes or inconsistencies with the outside world are met with disbelief.

I remember getting into it with a Google person in a forum once. They kept insisting they couldn't do real, portable files in Google Drive for Docs because that would break collaboration. They didn't seem able to understand I didn't want collaboration. I wanted to be able to open my word processor/spreadsheet/etc files in other tools without needing to connect to the internet (predates offline mode). I wanted to be a…

Export your Google doc to a word docx and then just save that in Google drive. It’s a portable file like any other at that point.

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Post by Kye »

eclipxe wrote: post #165
Kye wrote: post #34

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I remember getting into it with a Google person in a forum once. They kept insisting they couldn't do real, portable files in Google Drive for Docs because that would break collaboration. They didn't seem able to understand I didn't want collaboration. I wanted to be able to open my word processor/spreadsheet/etc files in other tools without needing to connect to the internet (predates offline mode). I wanted to be a…

Export your Google doc to a word docx and then just save that in Google drive. It’s a portable file like any other at that point.

Nope. Not what I want. I want it to be able to work like office suites have since before Google existed. There is no reason it can't other than lack of priority on Google's part.

Microsoft's web-based stuff does this just fine, just like the offline stuff has for decades. I can edit on an app wherever I am, then have my laptop back home do some magic on the OneDrive folder and process/store/whatever I want, and I never have to invoke a magic menu item to ask Microsoft to let me. It's just there.

I don't see why I have to adjust my workflow for Google's failure of imagination. I've also had too many cloud things decide to limit/remove export functionality to trust it.

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Post by eli »

IIsi50MHz wrote: post #118
eli wrote: post #116

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If the Firefox version is more than a year old, it’s a bot.

Or, the first time I've booted this computer in >1 yr.

I’d really discourage browsing random websites with a browser that is years out of date.

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Post by culi »

20after4 wrote: post #60
xchkr1337 wrote: post #56

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I wish Mozilla focused more on Linux support. I tried switching to Firefox multiple times, and in day-to-day use I always keep running into unfixable problems like bad font rendering, slow webgl performance, ui glitches etc. Problems like this never happen when I'm using Firefox on Windows, and honestly the state of Firefox on Linux is kind of surprising since it's the most commonly recommended and preinstalled brows…

I'm using Firefox on Linux¹ and I have experienced none of those problems. Although I'm not particularly happy with the direction that Mozilla has been headed, Firefox is certainly a vast improvement over Chrome or even Chromium. 1. Latest version of Firefox (not ESR), Latest Debian, both Intel & AMD graphics. I can't speak for NVIDIA graphics on Linux as I gave up on NVIDIA a few years ago.

The font thing in particular is interesting because Firefox is actually generally ahead of Chrome when it comes to most things related to fonts

https://wpt.fyi/results/css?label=experimental&label=master&...

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Post by noman-land »

suddenclarity wrote: post #108
noman-land wrote: post #82

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Why would you wait for this one single thing when you have had so many historical reasons to choose Firefox over Google already? Why wait for Google to piss you off for the thousandth time when 999 times is plenty?

I don't have any other major issues with Chrome and I've developed several plugins for it that I regularly use. Is Firefox better nowadays because when I left it, Chrome just seemed better in most ways. Firefox felt like an outdated (design) memory hog.

I don't know when the last time you used Firefox but the answer to your question will always be yes. It's been steadily getting better for many years now. I think it's better than Chrome not just for philosophical reasons but also on the merits.

I encourage you to check it out again if you haven't in a few years. There's been some pretty major changes.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/introducing-firefox-quan...

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Post by noman-land »

loeg wrote: post #98
noman-land wrote: post #82

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Why would you wait for this one single thing when you have had so many historical reasons to choose Firefox over Google already? Why wait for Google to piss you off for the thousandth time when 999 times is plenty?

This is probably the only actual thing I care about in a browser, at least between Firefox and Chrome. That and 1password.

That's totally fair. Among other things, I care about supporting a foundation that supports open source rather than an infinitely monied, privacy eroding advertising conglomerate.
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