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Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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> As we head towards Manifest V3 migration, we are intently monitoring comments from the developer community to help inform our timelines. Here's some feedback: If uBlock Origin loses full control over what gets loaded and what not, I will immediately uninstall Chrome from all my and my family's devices and switch back to Firefox, after a decade of using Chrome as the main browser. I will then also recommend the excl…

You can just do this anyway, you know. Firefox is pretty great these days.

Especially on macs

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Anything that breaks uBlock Origin is a deal breaker. With the chrome team making so many alterations to their plans, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Why wait? Move to Firefox now.

Using 2-3x as much battery as all other browsers on my Macbook is the dealbreaker for me.. I want to use the same browser on all systems when I move..

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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post #44

> As we head towards Manifest V3 migration, we are intently monitoring comments from the developer community to help inform our timelines. Here's some feedback: If uBlock Origin loses full control over what gets loaded and what not, I will immediately uninstall Chrome from all my and my family's devices and switch back to Firefox, after a decade of using Chrome as the main browser. I will then also recommend the excl…

You can just do this anyway, you know. Firefox is pretty great these days.

Also it would be healthy for the web ecosystem overall if users, especially power users, would use less Chrome. Any excuse to uninstall Chrome is a good excuse.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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post #46
post #44

> As we head towards Manifest V3 migration, we are intently monitoring comments from the developer community to help inform our timelines. Here's some feedback: If uBlock Origin loses full control over what gets loaded and what not, I will immediately uninstall Chrome from all my and my family's devices and switch back to Firefox, after a decade of using Chrome as the main browser. I will then also recommend the excl…

You can just do this anyway, you know. Firefox is pretty great these days.

Switched to Firefox for like 6-12 months, eventually moved back to Edge a couple of weeks ago. Had to open it constantly anyways.

I couldn't get used to Firefox's DevTools and the JSON viewer in Firefox is bad compared to the JSON Formatter chrome extension.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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post #44

> As we head towards Manifest V3 migration, we are intently monitoring comments from the developer community to help inform our timelines. Here's some feedback: If uBlock Origin loses full control over what gets loaded and what not, I will immediately uninstall Chrome from all my and my family's devices and switch back to Firefox, after a decade of using Chrome as the main browser. I will then also recommend the excl…

Same..

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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post #44

> As we head towards Manifest V3 migration, we are intently monitoring comments from the developer community to help inform our timelines. Here's some feedback: If uBlock Origin loses full control over what gets loaded and what not, I will immediately uninstall Chrome from all my and my family's devices and switch back to Firefox, after a decade of using Chrome as the main browser. I will then also recommend the excl…

You can just do this anyway, you know. Firefox is pretty great these days.

I wish Mozilla focused more on Linux support. I tried switching to Firefox multiple times, and in day-to-day use I always keep running into unfixable problems like bad font rendering, slow webgl performance, ui glitches etc.

Problems like this never happen when I'm using Firefox on Windows, and honestly the state of Firefox on Linux is kind of surprising since it's the most commonly recommended and preinstalled browser on Linux distros.

Right now I'm using Chromium but I'd be eager to switch if there was anything better which could provide me with a fast and stable browsing experience.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Why wait? Move to Firefox now.

Using 2-3x as much battery as all other browsers on my Macbook is the dealbreaker for me.. I want to use the same browser on all systems when I move..

IME Firefox (esp with the right extensions, like autosuspend tabs) is very light on system resources. A bit more so than chrome. I run only Linux though.

All the "websites that should be a program" (Netflix, Hulu, Slack, Amazon Video) now run great in FF, without my computer overheating. (though some of them might be on the chopping block if they don't quit blocking me from seeing HD content)

I hear Apple does some special magic in MacOS so that on that platform Safari actually works (compared to the ~real~ non-Apple world, where Safari is slow as heck and why would anyone ever touch that with a 10ft pole.)

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Great news. One thing that I'm sure about V3 is that it isn't well thought-out at all. For example, imagine your extension has to cache data for a browser session (across tabs but with a single cache), it's impossible as of now. The only workaround to do that has a 1MB storage limit, essentially forcing you to have a server-side cache mechanism (redis or whatever) for this trivial use-case. And worse, Google develope…

> One thing that I'm sure about V3 is that it isn't well thought-out at all. that's because it's been invented for the sole purpose of making "breaking effective ad-blocking" look legitimate

From what I've seen the main purpose is to increase secruity, privacy, and performance of the extension ecosystem. I have seen no sign of mv3 being for breaking ad blocking. MV3 and other parts of chromium have added features that help ad blockers.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Great news. One thing that I'm sure about V3 is that it isn't well thought-out at all. For example, imagine your extension has to cache data for a browser session (across tabs but with a single cache), it's impossible as of now. The only workaround to do that has a 1MB storage limit, essentially forcing you to have a server-side cache mechanism (redis or whatever) for this trivial use-case. And worse, Google develope…

>has a 1MB storage limit

They changed this a couple days ago to be 10 MB with Chrome 112.

Re: Pausing Manifest V2 phase-out changes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just do this anyway, you know. Firefox is pretty great these days.

I wish Mozilla focused more on Linux support. I tried switching to Firefox multiple times, and in day-to-day use I always keep running into unfixable problems like bad font rendering, slow webgl performance, ui glitches etc. Problems like this never happen when I'm using Firefox on Windows, and honestly the state of Firefox on Linux is kind of surprising since it's the most commonly recommended and preinstalled brows…

I'm using Firefox on Linux¹ and I have experienced none of those problems. Although I'm not particularly happy with the direction that Mozilla has been headed, Firefox is certainly a vast improvement over Chrome or even Chromium.

1. Latest version of Firefox (not ESR), Latest Debian, both Intel & AMD graphics. I can't speak for NVIDIA graphics on Linux as I gave up on NVIDIA a few years ago.

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