Pre-made css for design-handicapped people like me and web design framework for designers.
A massive boon for us has been the ability to rapidly prototype UI concepts for clients. People definitely prefer interacting with tangible objects over flat wireframes. The more complex the UI paradigm you're trying to represent, the more likely you should be using the bootstrap.
That.. hmm.. still doesn't really help me. How do you use it to prototype?
Is there a tutorial somewhere, or someone developing something?
Can someone compare and contrast Boostrap 2.0 with ZURB Foundation? I've been using Foundation for a new project and am really digging the responsive layout features.
Bootstrap and Zurb are actually quite different, in my opinion. Both are based on solid resets and (now) great, nestable, responsive grids. Bootstrap is great for when you're not a designer and you need to get something out there that looks passable. It includes a lot of fully styled elements and have very nice typography and forms out of the box. I found Bootstrap a lifesaver to get something up at http://www.events…
Thanks! That's the impression that I got from reading a similar thread about Bootstrap 1. I opted for Foundation because I want to get something reasonable together for prototyping, but also apply a full design later.
I am going to chime in being negative against the wave of positive feedback here. Twitter has done well releasing this and when I first saw it ages ago it looked neat and fairly professional. However, like a pop song which has been completely overplayed on the radio it has become tired and frankly a bit annoying. It has its uses offline to quickly get a demo up and running but it shouldn't be used on a live site. At…
Everyone survived eons of staring at old Windows application UIs, and this is prettier to look at! Believe it or not, a lot of business users expected their apps to have that boring look or else they might not consider it a full-fledged Windows program. The old Winamp design around the turn of the millenium looked alien in Windows--it looked awesome, but no business users would've considered it to be professional. When you go into a company to knock out some internal apps for them, creating something that gets work done is going to come first, and Bootstrap makes it possible for your app to look decent even when you don't have a designer around.
I am going to chime in being negative against the wave of positive feedback here. Twitter has done well releasing this and when I first saw it ages ago it looked neat and fairly professional. However, like a pop song which has been completely overplayed on the radio it has become tired and frankly a bit annoying. It has its uses offline to quickly get a demo up and running but it shouldn't be used on a live site. At…
I agree with this completely - it's too branded and shackles you in development. I am working right now on a solution that gives you the ability to quickly prototype with nice looking styles, but is much more flexible and modular and gets out of your way when you need it. It's going to be a pretty huge project (and will borrow some pieces from bootstrap), but will post when it's done
Lazy question: is it easy to remove that black bar? I think it's a terrible bit of navigation for "average user" kinds of people, who will easily miss it.
It's used on Twitter, Google and Facebook (er, Blue Bar). I think the "average user" can get it.
There are plenty of 'average Joe' kind of people who don't use stuff like Twitter or Facebook much.
Some of our customers seem to have some difficulties finding information on pricing here, for instance: http://www.liberwriter.com/
If that navigation link were at the top in a small black band, it might as well be on Mars.
A massive boon for us has been the ability to rapidly prototype UI concepts for clients. People definitely prefer interacting with tangible objects over flat wireframes. The more complex the UI paradigm you're trying to represent, the more likely you should be using the bootstrap.
That.. hmm.. still doesn't really help me. How do you use it to prototype? Is there a tutorial somewhere, or someone developing something?
For me, the Bootstrap-101 videos got me from "wtf do I do with this thing" to "oh, I get it now". The pacing was a bit slow for me, but overall I got a lot from the videos.
I am going to chime in being negative against the wave of positive feedback here. Twitter has done well releasing this and when I first saw it ages ago it looked neat and fairly professional. However, like a pop song which has been completely overplayed on the radio it has become tired and frankly a bit annoying. It has its uses offline to quickly get a demo up and running but it shouldn't be used on a live site. At…
"Just don't look 100% like a vanilla bootstrap site." Unless you're targeting developers or Silicon Valley who cares? Most people couldn't tell you the difference between a Bootstrap site or a non-bootstrap site, even if they could its unlikely they would actually care. As a dev who admittedly sucks at CSS I'll take better looking and clone-like (and cross-browser) over ugly and unique any day.
I'm trying bootstrap in my latest project, but have to say was surprised the first time I viewed it with IE. Even with IE9 the navbar and buttons look poor. Any advise?
Yes, Bootstrap is great. Honestly, I love using it. But where are all the people that I used to see screeching about semantic markup? Because this takes things in exactly the opposite direction.
yeah, like using for icons http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/graphics.html#edef-I
At first, I thought that was a poor choice, too. However, has come to mean that something is to be interpreted under a different voice or mood. You are providing augmented meaning. To further color a bit of text with an icon, I think, is in the spirit of the rfc.
Notice, also, that the rfc talks specifically about classifying the alternate meaning, appropriately, with the class attribute.