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Loss of government credibility for telling people that they were in no danger while clouds of toxins were visible overhead? If there is one thing you can out on, it is that government agencies will always circle the wagons to cover up malfeasance and/or incompetence.
That's exactly why, if anything, the CDC is incentivized to overstate the risk. Credibility is their stock in trade.
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Maybe they did it so that it would be easier to remove medical and CDC personnel from the area. After all, protecting these people was the justification the public health administration used to say "masks don't work". You have to be a total sucker to believe they're optimizing for your subpopulation. They're the #1 Greater Good Team. If admitting they got sick would reduce faith in the government and that would be ba…
The CDC didn't say masks don't work. They did say cloth masks weren't as effective as N95s.
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If you're going to go that far, you should add "USA" to it as well. This is a very USA centric forum though, so it's perfectly fine leaving it as it is. A better question is why is a CDC news article on train derailment on hacker news. What part of this article is related to technology or computers? It's just regular news.
Many readers are involved in biosciences and discussing chemical reactions is a hn thing to do.
No links to any reports containing any factual studies, any reports, any discussion on the chemical components (beyond listing what they are).
So I just don't think it deserves to be on HN, but that's fine. It's got 441 votes so obviously at least that many think it does.
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> The plume of chemical vapors covered a significant proportion this country's breadbasket. Does anybody have a scientific (not clickbait) citation for this? The quick HYSPLIT plume simulation I ran[0] showed the plume crossing over New England on its way to the Atlantic. There is agriculture there, but I would hardly describe it as the nation's bread basket. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of contamination of the…
Here's a hysplit for the date of the disaster https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/113wyj3/hy... Looks like the plume didn't blow west much, which probably mitigates agricultural impact significantly, good point!
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The CDC's handling of COVID was also just a complete and utter joke. Frankly, one big reason why COVID was so bad in the US was because of how terribly the CDC fucked up testing. They banned every test that wasn't their flawed one. NPR did a good article on how massive the fuck up was - https://www.npr.org/2020/11/06/929078678/cdc-report-official...
It's wild that you're being downvoted for true facts, sourced by NPR. The CDC also knowingly advised against masks, for months, claiming that they wouldn't help and could even hurt despite knowing better. And that wasn't the only time they kept quiet with information that would have benefited Americans - this well sourced article points out a few of the more egregious incidents. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/…
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Oh how quickly we forget. https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-07-27/timeline-cd... March 24, 2020 Even as the coronavirus spreads across the United States — shutting down businesses, sporting events and schools — the CDC’s advice around masking remains unequivocal: Healthy people who do not work in the healthcare sector and are not taking care of an infected person at home do not need to wear masks.
Ah, now that I know what you mean: Yes, the CDC said masks don't prevent the spread of the virus. They also said it mitigates the spread of the virus, which are both true statements when the number of people wearing masks grows to "most of the country." Medicine is a statistical science, which a lot of people have a hard time wrapping their heads around the nuances of.
Hardly makes a difference though. CDC advice in March 2020 was that the vast majority don't need to wear one. Then suddenly everyone had to wear one, on pain of fines. Nothing about masks or the virus or "the science" changed. The reliability problem remains.
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It's wild that you're being downvoted for true facts, sourced by NPR. The CDC also knowingly advised against masks, for months, claiming that they wouldn't help and could even hurt despite knowing better. And that wasn't the only time they kept quiet with information that would have benefited Americans - this well sourced article points out a few of the more egregious incidents. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/…
Completely genuine question here. Have masks actually been shown to help or not help? We must have learned something about it during all this.
Yes, I know, the irony!
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Air quality sampling indicates they had dissipated if I understand correctly.
You do not. Even weeks after people were kicked out of the temporary accommodations and told to go back to their homes the smell of chlorine was omnipresent across the town. What congressman Johnson claimed at the townhall was that the levels were safe which appears to be based on acute rather than long-term exposure data.