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The era of AI-written recruitment pitches has begun.
"begun the era of AI-written recruitment pitches has" FTFY
You were supposed to bring balance to the market, not destroy it!
He who submits a resume has already lost
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Just happened to see this. If your buying say, steel, presumably you care very little about the supplier, their story, etc. You want specs (carbon content, hardness, annealing temperature, whatever) and price. Likewise, hiring people as commodities, you don't care about the cover letter, you want to know where they went to school and want experience they have. If you're trying to hire a person as opposed to a commodi…
You are missing the point - CV is the story. Some prefer prose, others prefer structured text. You should not penalize anyone due to their preferences of the form.
I'd be very interested to see a CV that I really felt was s story. I know it's possible to make up story to fit one, but I still see them mostly as specs rather than something that gives you a sense of the person.
Otoh, I'm going to try and remember this the next time I make a CV and see if i can make it a story. If done well I can see this as a powerful way of presenting yourself. (And for clarity, I mean a real story that gives a sense of the person, not the story of some career progression)
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#143I keep giving this advice on how to significantly increase your chances of getting to the interview stage. Most candidates really only submit a resume. The chances of getting to the interview stage with this approach are almost zero. Because everyone does this, you can easily stand out. Simply answer the following 2 questions briefly in plain English. 1. Why do you want to take this role? 2. Why are you a good fit fo…
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From your link: WunderGraph is an all-in-one solution to build, integrate, deploy and monitor modern APIs. We empower developers to ship faster and with confidence. What does any of that even mean? If I'm submitting an application, it's because you listed specific skills and experience requirements and I meet them. I'm not going to {insert euphemism here} just to satisfy your ego. Your hiring approach favors bullshit…
ChatGPT to the rescue! Take all the buzzwords from the landing page and ask ChatGPT to write you a cover letter Dear [Recipient's Name], As a passionate professional who thrives on delivering fast and reliable user experiences across platforms, I am excited to apply for the [Job Title] position at Wundergraph. Your organization's commitment to providing an all-in-one solution that empowers businesses with confidence…
After reviewing your excellent application, we regret to inform you we’ve decided to go a different route. We’re hiring ChatGPT. Thank you for your interest and we wish you good luck in the future.
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This attitude is well suited to an employers market in which you need to profess your love for the job and company as part of your job application. A pity the market has turned back this direction. It’s usually accompanied by an employer “looking for someone who loves the opportunity enough to go through our 12 week, 9 interview, 1 whiteboard, 2 coding test process which usually ends in veto and ghosting”. Like telli…
Yep, especially since the answer the the first question ("1. Why do you want to take this role?") is usually: "you have work to do, and have the money, I can do the work, and want the money"
... or mine, I need the medical benefits because I have a family member that needs the medical benefits.
If it were not for the way to get medical benefits via employment, I would pursue a passion versus sit in front of a keyboard and type things up that will not exist in 6 months.
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There has to be a better way. I really think TripleByte was on to something. No other profession has such a convoluted interviewing system. Imagine if doctors were expected to perform surgeries in X minutes in order to prove they were qualified for the job? Imagine if a lawyer had to prove they graduated from law school by defending a random felon in a court setting. No other profession in existence expects candidate…
This comes up a lot and the reason doctors and lawyers don’t have to do their version of FizzBuzz is that they have strong, organized professional organizations managing their professions and providing a credential that assures some base-level skill. If we had the equivalent of the Bar Exam, we’d only have to take it once and then skip 75% of every interview.
We do. Didn't you see that I passed my Cloud Associate exam that I paid $300 for? I posted it to LinkedIn. /s
Re: He who submits a resume has already lost
#147I keep giving this advice on how to significantly increase your chances of getting to the interview stage. Most candidates really only submit a resume. The chances of getting to the interview stage with this approach are almost zero. Because everyone does this, you can easily stand out. Simply answer the following 2 questions briefly in plain English. 1. Why do you want to take this role? 2. Why are you a good fit fo…
Yep.
"Fit" means hitting many axises, especially efficient results.
Cover letter and selective resume emphasis tailoring are targeted product marketing.
Candidate should research the company and possibly the career of the interviewer(s).
Candidate should have a 45s elevator pitch on why they should be hired.
Be prepared and demonstrate unique and essential usefulness.
Re: He who submits a resume has already lost
#148I keep giving this advice on how to significantly increase your chances of getting to the interview stage. Most candidates really only submit a resume. The chances of getting to the interview stage with this approach are almost zero. Because everyone does this, you can easily stand out. Simply answer the following 2 questions briefly in plain English. 1. Why do you want to take this role? 2. Why are you a good fit fo…
> The question I'm asking myself is. Why should I read your CV when you didn't bother skimming through my landing page, docs, or open source repository.
This can easily be turned around: why should an applicant spend time looking at the landing page or docs, when in all likelihood her application will not be read, and will be filtered out by an HR person who doesn't understand the work and whose only job is to reject the maximum amount of incoming people so that the pipe doesn't get clogged?
It'd be ineffective for someone looking for a job to spend any significant amount of time on any given job ad.
Job hunting is like dating. It's a numbers game.
And it doesn't rely on anyone's true qualities, but on how the other party perceives those qualities. You have to make the other party desire you, either because they want to be with you, or because they convince themselves that you will make them look good.
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> We don't want job applications from people who are looking for a job. We're looking for people who actually want to do work > We're not offering you a job. We offer you the opportunity This gem right here sums up what an employers market means. Every employer thinks they are special and wants an employee who's entire life's journey was only a preparation for the singular great moment of meeting you and building you…
> But guess what: you are not special, you are just a workplace and you compete in the marketplace for talent just like everybody else. For economic reasons that have nothing to do with you, you have more negotiating power for a limited time. That is all. I think it’s perfectly legitimate to not want to hire people with this attitude. Just a few people with this attitude can completely ruin an early stage company. An…
> I’m sorry, but I am special: there is only one of me on this planet.
There may be only one person exactly like you, although with 9 billion people it remains to be proven. But you sure are replaceable by many others with approximately the same set of skills.
Re: He who submits a resume has already lost
#150In my experience, the article is off base thanks to a fundamentally flawed premise: misuse of resumes by bad companies means don't use it for good companies.
On the contrary, good roles need a good resume (CV) process to cast a wide enough net to find great teammates.
1. The idealistic teenager version of this does exit: at companies that value craft and domain know-how.
2. The ratio is not 10 delusional to 40 qualified, the ratio is 40 delusional to 10 qualified, maybe. (I've reviewed 5 figures of resumes.)
3. A bad company has unqualified screeners, in a disinterested department, as described in the blog. That's indeed terrible. Don't apply there!!!
4. A good company, screening is performed by people with mastery of the area, well qualified to pattern match resumes to the performers on their team. You can often tell from the job descriptions (or your network) when this is true.
5. Bad filter is as described in the article, while a good filter puts all plausible resumes through, regardless of any nonsense in the job description like "8 years of ChatGPT prompt crafting experience required" or "Masters required".
5. In good company, plausibles are given to the tech or team leads hiring who are interested in finding candidates with standout value adds, these generally are not on resumes.
6. This is done not by bullet match for "did this precise thing before" (the rubric from non-domain aka contentless managers) but by understanding candidate attributes (e.g. an attribute to learn new domains quickly) and is tetris-ing a well qualified cloverleaf of attributes for evolving solutions in the problem space -- and being able to see these attributes between the lines of how a dry resume is written.
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Finally, most importantly, the candidate is not making a resume for the company, but for themselves.
As a craftsperson in a domain, it's worth "curating" your CV. CV stands for curriculum vitae which in Latin means "course of life".
From apprentice, through journeyman, to mastery, there is a roadmap, and the as-yet-unwritten portions of the CV are more important than those on the page.
By writing this down for yourself ahead of time, you can chart a course that lands you where you intend, or keeps you on a path you find rewarding. Diff yourself against that path, making intentional corrections as you go.
While at a job, journal the outcomes you delivered for the team, and the company, that made a difference. When you've gathered all the power-ups you need, crystallize them onto the CV, and start your own pattern-matching against the next role on your roadmap. When you find a role (internal or external), go for it.
When you manage yourself proactively this way, and apply to roles at companies that value craft, you're not working for the resume process, the CV process works for you.