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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #189

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What pisses me off is that some legitimate websites like project goutenberg are all blocked by my Internet provider in Italy and I have to go through a VPN to access them. Same for scribd, vdoc, libgen and so on.

Just change the dns.

I'm too low-IQ to understand what this means.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #619
post #454

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They don't need your name, they fingerprint your browser when necessary.

Please tell us more about OpenAI fingerprinting browsers when they currently serve 0 ad

The import word is "currently" and MS is already starting to integrated ads in Bing Chat.

And we all know if ads come into play then tracking follows closely.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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there are frameworks in place for this already, like GDPR. my comment is not about it being related in any way, it shows how you can see a certain decision making process, that is hostile to anything new

This _is_ the GDPR at work here.

Should it apply to the whole of Europe?

If openai perceives this to be just a problem for one 60M people country, not particularly known for tech enterprises, they may just shrug it off and close off service to Italy and call it a day.

That's exactly what they did. My plus account got refunded and blocked. VPN only allows me to access the free service, so no GPT-4 for me.

So unless other countries are following on and ensuring that tech giants are respecting privacy, this will just hurt Italian citizens and their ability to compete globally.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

#635

'exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."' So do (certain) books. That's another issue right? If you let your minor access stuff, they.. access stuff. Hard to control? I know and it is. How is this specific to OpenAI?

> 'exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."' > So do (certain) books. Minors are typically given books that are appropriate to "their degree of development and self-awareness."

The government doesn't block google because a minor could use it to access content that is unsuitable for their degree of development and awareness

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #435

While this is obviously a dumb move, there are 2 upsides for Italy: - Italy, like the rest of south europe is hobbled by an army of bureaucrats doing busywork and their jobs are the first to be threatened by an AI speaking fluent Italian. So it helps them to keep unemployment from getting even higher - It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great…

>It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great engineers nobody is going to invest a dime in a country where regulators and government are against anything that is "new". it's just not a place for new business or tech overall. it's a very hostile environment to be operating in

Nobody invests in Italy anyway, for other reasons (e.g. dysfunctional legal system), so that argument ain't going to sway any decision maker

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #435

While this is obviously a dumb move, there are 2 upsides for Italy: - Italy, like the rest of south europe is hobbled by an army of bureaucrats doing busywork and their jobs are the first to be threatened by an AI speaking fluent Italian. So it helps them to keep unemployment from getting even higher - It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great…

> Italy has great engineers

Most of them work abroad.

The brain exodus (fuga dei cervelli) may have slowed down in the last few years, but depending how the situation evolves it may resume

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

#638

OpenAI has now blocked access to ChatGPT in Italy, if you try to reach https://chat.openai.com you're going to be greeted with 403 Access denied.

I wonder what happens to Italians that paid for pro, who ends up having to refund them?

They are getting a refund

> We are issuing refunds to all users in Italy who purchased a ChatGPT Plus subscription in March. We are also temporarily pausing subscription renewals in Italy so that users won't be charged while ChatGPT is suspended.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

#639

OpenAI has now blocked access to ChatGPT in Italy, if you try to reach https://chat.openai.com you're going to be greeted with 403 Access denied.

Full statement

> Dear ChatGPT customer,

  We regret to inform you that we have disabled ChatGPT for users in Italy at the request of the Italian Garante.

  We are issuing refunds to all users in Italy who purchased a ChatGPT Plus subscription in March. We are also temporarily pausing subscription renewals in Italy so that users won't be charged while ChatGPT is suspended.

  We are committed to protecting people's privacy and we believe we offer ChatGPT in compliance with GDPR and other privacy laws. We will engage with the Garante with the goal of restoring your access as soon as possible.

  Many of you have told us that you find ChatGPT helpful for everyday tasks, and we look forward to making it available again soon.

  If you have any questions or concerns regarding ChatGPT or the refund process, we have prepared a list of Frequently Asked Questions to address them.

  —The OpenAI Support Team

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #82

Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

Same in Spain. I get calls every day from energy companies pretending to be my own provider and having lots of data on me like my name and contact numbers. Privacy is so broken here.

The Android phone application --I think it's by Google-- alerts of most suspected spam, or you can mark it afterwards and block. I still receive one call every other week, pick up and keep quiet, waiting for the caller to speak. Most times they hang in a few seconds. They have a finite number of numbers, so in a handful of years, frequency came from a couple a day.

Yesterday I received a call from Bari, my patron saint's city in Italy. It seems they're exporting their spam. Italy has a weird criminal legislation for scams, that's why there are so many fake products in used items applications like Wallapop or Vinted.

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