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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by ElemenoPicuares »

ithkuil wrote: post #527
prenoob wrote: post #82

Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

These phone calls are absolutely a nightmare. My phone filters out at least 2-3 automatically filtered calls a day and yet a few slip through the cracks. These companies are using the old phone infrastructure that on paper could be traced without problems. Yet nothing, they operate with impunity

In the US, many people I know have been periodically inundated with scam robocalls... in Mandarin! They spoof a number very close to your own which is a dead giveaway in a larger metropolitan area but probably pretty effective in rural areas with fewer local numbers. The novelty wore off after like the 10th "Nĭhǎo..."

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by OJFord »

jl6 wrote: post #424
IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #269

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The UK has left the EU. They appear to not be abiding by EU privacy laws as a result.

Unlikely. UK GDPR is pretty much identical to EU GDPR.

AIUI it's presently exactly identical.

However there is a proposal for some changes - it doesn't make any sense for me (make it less onerous yet also somehow maintain compatibility with EU GDPR?) but I don't have time for the actual legalese frankly and the press release was devoid of detail in favour of annoying quips, and completely confusing.

I honestly think politics would be better off without television and radio (again). If the only way lay people heard of stuff was through slower news (if at all) then surely they'd speak normally (not in pithy soundbites) and have better debates.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by OJFord »

mattrighetti wrote: post #204
gpgn wrote: post #189

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What pisses me off is that some legitimate websites like project goutenberg are all blocked by my Internet provider in Italy and I have to go through a VPN to access them. Same for scribd, vdoc, libgen and so on.

Do yourself a favour and install AdGuardHome/PiHole in your LAN so that you don't have to connect to a VPN each time, that way DNS is going to work and return a valid response back to every single device that you own in the network.

Not that I don't recommend something like that for other benefits, but GP could probably just switch their router or devices to use some non-ISP DNS - 1.1.1.1, 9.9.9.9, 8.8.8.8, whatever. It's not blocking specific DNS requests that will fix their immediate problem, it's not blocking them (by not using ISP's resolver).

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by wahnfrieden »

nigamanth wrote: post #588
kjto wrote: post #583

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The Italian gov might be crowded with subpar intelligence, but OpenAI didn’t do a great job at reassuring people either in terms of how they handle data, how they trained models, what they share with plugins, privacy and security blah blah

OpenAI is a fairly new company, and if it tells you how it trained models what stops you from making one yourself?

Well, they don’t

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by blep_ »

memorable wrote: post #581
fofoz wrote: post #109

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I am also writing from Italy. In the last few months I have received so many spam calls from UK numbers that I have been forced to ban the whole of Britain from my phone. Good job Data Protection authority.

Report from Vietnam: I received scam calls pretty often before. It Vietnam trash SIMs were fairly common, and it bothered people so much that the goverment has to force every mobile company to "standardize" their consumer's data (i.e. fixing the incorrect data in trash SIMs). I have not received any scam calls since doing it.

What do you mean by "trash SIMs"?

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by pteraspidomorph »

LightBug1 wrote: post #466
fofoz wrote: post #109

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I am also writing from Italy. In the last few months I have received so many spam calls from UK numbers that I have been forced to ban the whole of Britain from my phone. Good job Data Protection authority.

Report from the UK. I'm a British prince. I have a business proposition for you. It could be financially very lucrative. Having left the EU, we are finding it hard to make ends meet. If you send me £50k,I will be able to release £100m frozen in evil EU banks. I will give you 50%.

For fuck's sake Harry.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by nullsense »

nigamanth wrote: post #588
kjto wrote: post #583

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The Italian gov might be crowded with subpar intelligence, but OpenAI didn’t do a great job at reassuring people either in terms of how they handle data, how they trained models, what they share with plugins, privacy and security blah blah

OpenAI is a fairly new company, and if it tells you how it trained models what stops you from making one yourself?

About a quarter of a billion dollars to rent a state of the art GPU cluster, that's what.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

Tryk wrote: post #586
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #394

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I mean specifically in the way GDPR does it. GDPR asserts that anyone anywhere in the world must adhere to the GDPR if any EU citizens supply data to them. I'm not aware of any remotely similar laws in commerce or communications in any other country.

Having read this comment thread I feel compelled to comment that I find your reasoning bizarre. You started out with saying: > GDPR tries to enforce its rules on servers outside of its territory. Which you then clarified to > It's still fascinating (and, I believe, a first) that the EU thinks they have extraterritorial jurisdiction just because their citizens are affected. So it would appear as if your argument is: G…

> I find your reasoning bizarre.

I can concede that maybe I have not expressed myself well or articulated my points clearly. Allow me to try and clarify.

> GDPR is unique, because it exerts extraterritorial jurisdiction over servers whenever EU citizens are affected.

It's not simply the extraterritorial jurisdiction, it's that combined with how far-reaching and broad the GDPR is. The other examples people have given were either a seizure after an act was committed via a court order, or far more narrow in scope.

> However, you won't relent

Regarding COPPA, I provided references showing that a) the legislation itself does not assert extraterritorial jurisdiction in the way the GDPR does, b) that the wiki claims the FTC asserts extraterritorial jurisdiction but I can find no actual link to the FTC asserting that, and c) that legal scholars and the legal community seems to be of the opinion that COPPA is only applies domestically.

Why should I relent when those points show that COPPA is indeed quite different from GDPR? What's the flaw in my reasoning here?

> But you never ask yourself WHY ByteDance has a US presence in the first place? We could ask similar questions: Why does Facebook have a EU presence (on Ireland), why does Google?

But that's the point! The US sued someone via COPPA when they had a US presence, and it was in a US court. There was nothing extraterritorial about it!

GDPR is saying they could take action against one lone Chinese person operating a small business from home within China, someone who has never even left China, just because they collected data on someone in France.

That's frankly ridiculous, and I maintain, unprecedented.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by testinj »

bakugo wrote: post #518
Zurrrrr wrote: post #87

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Singapore has to be one of the worst places to live. I don't care how 'nice' their society might seem, their overstep is too steep by far. "Custom officers can subject travellers to a drug screening test at the point of entry to Singapore. If you test positive for drugs, you can be arrested and prosecuted, even if the drugs were consumed prior to your arrival in the country." That's insanity.

Sounds pretty great to me. Might be because I'm not a drug addict though.

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by nullsense »

svachalek wrote: post #472
cpa wrote: post #379

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I lack details but most probably their grief is that OpenAI has not put in place reasonable* safeguards to check if the user is minor or not. * for some value of reasonable -_-

They need a Leisure Suit Larry style test with questions like "Does a pair of queens beat 3 deuces?" "Yes, in Blackjack"

Leisure Suit Larry was one of my favorite games when I saw like 5 or 6 years old. Was always fun getting through that gauntlet of questions.
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