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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by pkaye »

munk-a wrote: post #412
Helmut10001 wrote: post #254

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Report from Germany: Haven't received a spam call in years.

Report from Canada: I might receive something like three spam calls in the past year. I don't know why my spam dropped so significantly when I moved up to Canada but it was quite dramatic compared to the US. There are periodic waves but I tend to miss out of them - I suspect because Canada works hard to prevent dumb auto-dialers from working.

I feel the STIR/SHAKEN changes have made a difference with spam calls for me in the US.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by meghan_rain »

jprete wrote: post #37
0xDEF wrote: post #23

This is just a temporary annoyance for OpenAI. Their partner/owner Microsoft already hosts GDPR compliant OpenAI GPT-3 models from an Azure data center (in the EU). It's only a question of time before they also host GPT-3.5-turbo and GPT-4. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/o... Azure ain't cheap but they know how to do EU compliance. Many EU governments put their citizens data on Azure's EU…

The training data is a serious problem. So far Adobe is the only company I've heard of to publicly state they had the right to use the data for training.

Adobe trains LLMs?

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by Shaggy2000 »

hankchinaski wrote: post #487

this alongside the ban on lab grown meat[0] and the recent proposed ban to use english words in government documents[1] is just proof on how antiquated and backward looking the government is. so glad i left almost 10 years ago. [EDIT] the privacy regulator is independent from the government but elected by the parliament every 7 years. nevertheless this is a testament on how in general, regardless of political party,…

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Post by naetius »

prenoob wrote: post #82

Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

Sorry if I picked your comment but it seems one of the most upvoted.

What’s the correlation between the alleged privacy violations of OpenAI laid out in the article and the “bureaucrats only pretend to work”?

Honestly asking: if there are indeed privacy violations in OpenAI (we don’t know that yet I think) shouldn’t that authority address them?

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Post by camillomiller »

hankchinaski wrote: post #487

this alongside the ban on lab grown meat[0] and the recent proposed ban to use english words in government documents[1] is just proof on how antiquated and backward looking the government is. so glad i left almost 10 years ago. [EDIT] the privacy regulator is independent from the government but elected by the parliament every 7 years. nevertheless this is a testament on how in general, regardless of political party,…

To be fair this as nothing to do with the idiotic lab meat ban. It’s actually not even a ban, just a “ban on collecting data from Italian users without a proper disclosure” with a 2 months deadline to comply.

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Post by hankchinaski »

camillomiller wrote: post #495
hankchinaski wrote: post #487

this alongside the ban on lab grown meat[0] and the recent proposed ban to use english words in government documents[1] is just proof on how antiquated and backward looking the government is. so glad i left almost 10 years ago. [EDIT] the privacy regulator is independent from the government but elected by the parliament every 7 years. nevertheless this is a testament on how in general, regardless of political party,…

To be fair this as nothing to do with the idiotic lab meat ban. It’s actually not even a ban, just a “ban on collecting data from Italian users without a proper disclosure” with a 2 months deadline to comply.

there are frameworks in place for this already, like GDPR. my comment is not about it being related in any way, it shows how you can see a certain decision making process, that is hostile to anything new

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Post by artificialLimbs »

seydor wrote: post #410
artificialLimbs wrote: post #406

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The AI is unaccountable. If the leaders get good ideas from the AI, then cool, let them present them and take responsibility.

accountability does not guarantee future improvement, while an AI can be continuously retrained

AI does not guarantee future improvement either. Humans can also be continuously retrained. I don't understand your point.

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Post by groestl »

leftcenterright wrote: post #488
groestl wrote: post #476

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Phobia is defined as an irrational fear. Before PRISM, you could argue the fear was indeed irrational (although the writings were on the wall), but now? Of course, for a company that's a numbers game. For private citizens or the general public, especially in countries with a history like Germany or Italy, it's not.

I think it boiled down mostly to fear of being compromised by the CIA/NSA vs fear of being compromised by a mildly competent attacker while using an insecure "Made in EU" provider. Practically speaking: the first one winning against the latter is really of no use.

As a former European supplier for US companies myself, now part of a "Made in EU" company, being friends with enough European engineers I regard highly, I must admit I'm not impartial to that topic.

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Post by swores »

illiarian wrote: post #473
swores wrote: post #385

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Sorry if I wasn't clear, there's confusion between banners put up because of GDPR and actual 'cookie banners'. There are certainly plenty of examples of poorly implemented banners attempting to comply with GDPR while not actually being compliant, where consent is required, but I wouldn't call those 'cookie banners' since they generally talk about privacy and personal data, not just about cookies/local storage. My poi…

I wish they's update the ePrivacy directive :) --- I think , but don't quote me in that, that with ePrivacy you don't really need a banner, but an explanation that you use cookies. But that is a minor issue

I think there is an update being discussed? Away from my desk but will look in a bit

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Post by illiarian »

swores wrote: post #499
illiarian wrote: post #473

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I wish they's update the ePrivacy directive :) --- I think , but don't quote me in that, that with ePrivacy you don't really need a banner, but an explanation that you use cookies. But that is a minor issue

I think there is an update being discussed? Away from my desk but will look in a bit

I saw this discussed in my Twitter feed today, so second-third-hand account is that the update has been in the works for almost a decade, being fought tooth and nail by the same companies that fight any other privacy initiative.

Hearsay and rumors, so don't take this seriously

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