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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by euroderf »

leftcenterright wrote: post #465

This does not surprise me at all. I worked in Italy for 2 years and in Germany for 4 years. A sense of `US/CIA/NSA-phobia` is strong among many companies and is often used to justify not using US datacenters, cloud-services and SaaS tools. I have to admit I do not fully understand it, but I am inclined to think it is mostly a bias and not driven by actual risk assessments. Having conducted risk assessments and threat…

The phobia sounds like a feature, not a bug. But could you explain more of what you mean by,

> Having conducted risk assessments and threat analysis myself for various companies with a global presence, I was most intrigued by this phenomenon in the EU as it was mostly not driven by technical accuracy.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by svachalek »

cpa wrote: post #379
SanderNL wrote: post #125

'exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."' So do (certain) books. That's another issue right? If you let your minor access stuff, they.. access stuff. Hard to control? I know and it is. How is this specific to OpenAI?

I lack details but most probably their grief is that OpenAI has not put in place reasonable* safeguards to check if the user is minor or not. * for some value of reasonable -_-

They need a Leisure Suit Larry style test with questions like "Does a pair of queens beat 3 deuces?" "Yes, in Blackjack"

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by illiarian »

swores wrote: post #385
illiarian wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, cookie notification banners are nothing to do with GDPR! They are to comply with an earlier (but still active after GDPR) bit of legislation, the 2002 'ePrivacy Directive' (sometimes known as the "cookies law"). The cookie banners people are now complaining about are literally companies skirting or otherwise breaking GDPR. Because they now have to ask for your consent before the siphon your data and sell i…

Sorry if I wasn't clear, there's confusion between banners put up because of GDPR and actual 'cookie banners'. There are certainly plenty of examples of poorly implemented banners attempting to comply with GDPR while not actually being compliant, where consent is required, but I wouldn't call those 'cookie banners' since they generally talk about privacy and personal data, not just about cookies/local storage. My poi…

I wish they's update the ePrivacy directive :)

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I think, but don't quote me in that, that with ePrivacy you don't really need a banner, but an explanation that you use cookies. But that is a minor issue

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by FredPret »

piuantiderp wrote: post #367
nforgerit wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say that there's two different styles of legislation here. AFAIK in the US (and maybe UK too) a producer can put whatever they want into their products but can be sued to death in case sth goes wrong. Most EU countries have a different flavor such that they try to tightly control products and their ingredients upfront. Imho both styles have their pros and cons.

Food in Europe > USA. Even the fast food.

Depends on where you go. You can eat better in NYC than in Vienna, and better in Barcelona than Pittsburgh.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by jamiek88 »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #467
goatlover wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would a small child or plumber know when GPT generates something that’s legally incorrect?

Same risk when using actual lawyer

You have recourse against a lawyer that messes up a contract, lies, or misrepresents you.

You also have their reputation to guide you and their professional organisation theoretically enforces minimum standards.

You have no such recourse against chatGPT.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by groestl »

leftcenterright wrote: post #465

This does not surprise me at all. I worked in Italy for 2 years and in Germany for 4 years. A sense of `US/CIA/NSA-phobia` is strong among many companies and is often used to justify not using US datacenters, cloud-services and SaaS tools. I have to admit I do not fully understand it, but I am inclined to think it is mostly a bias and not driven by actual risk assessments. Having conducted risk assessments and threat…

Phobia is defined as an irrational fear. Before PRISM, you could argue the fear was indeed irrational (although the writings were on the wall), but now?

Of course, for a company that's a numbers game. For private citizens or the general public, especially in countries with a history like Germany or Italy, it's not.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by groestl »

Helmut10001 wrote: post #254
fofoz wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am also writing from Italy. In the last few months I have received so many spam calls from UK numbers that I have been forced to ban the whole of Britain from my phone. Good job Data Protection authority.

Report from Germany: Haven't received a spam call in years.

Hi Helmut! Greetings from Austria.

> Haven't received a spam call in years.

Ditto.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by dzhiurgis »

Aromasin wrote: post #244
dagorenouf wrote: post #130

Europe on top of innovation once again. Watch out US and China! /s (I say this as a French citizen)

About once a week I consider dropping out of the tech industry and becoming a politician just so I don't have to sit and watch by the sidelines as incompetent, ignorant people, who studied humanities with not a drop a technical aptitude, bullshit their way through funding and regulating technology. They are never well informed enough to come up with any sort or coherent solution, because they're barely capable in act…

Maybe the problem is “career politician” as in - having to be politician entire life to get thru to a meaningful position?

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by lostlogin »

LightBug1 wrote: post #466
fofoz wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am also writing from Italy. In the last few months I have received so many spam calls from UK numbers that I have been forced to ban the whole of Britain from my phone. Good job Data Protection authority.

Report from the UK. I'm a British prince. I have a business proposition for you. It could be financially very lucrative. Having left the EU, we are finding it hard to make ends meet. If you send me £50k,I will be able to release £100m frozen in evil EU banks. I will give you 50%.

Chat GPT warms me that this is likely a scam.

The offer being presented sounds too good to be true and the request for money upfront is a common red flag for scams.

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