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Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Professional is more like $200, and has all that crap as home version.

The difference between home and pro is very small these days. Hyper-V, BitLocker, and Group Policy, are basically it. You can grab a cheap OEM licence to upgrade Home to Pro very easily for far less than $200.

Don't forget Remote Desktop.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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The difference between home and pro is very small these days. Hyper-V, BitLocker, and Group Policy, are basically it. You can grab a cheap OEM licence to upgrade Home to Pro very easily for far less than $200.

Don't forget Remote Desktop.

Good shout. That and hyper-v are why I upgraded to pro (on the very cheap) on my main windows machine & laptop.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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post #26

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Professional is more like $200, and has all that crap as home version.

The difference between home and pro is very small these days. Hyper-V, BitLocker, and Group Policy, are basically it. You can grab a cheap OEM licence to upgrade Home to Pro very easily for far less than $200.

Wasn't it also true that the Home version can't connect to regular SMB/CIFS shares? There's a very faint bell ringing in the back of my mind about that.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Windows 10 and 11 have been the single biggest factors pushing me onto Linux as a daily driver. I currently dual boot my desktop, spending my time 50/50 between Linux and Windows. Windows mainly for gaming, Linux for work (and some gaming). The biggest annoyance for me in Linux is that Chrome is a bit janky. I am running Fedora with (as close as possible to vanilla) Gnome. I wish Chrome would just use GTK4 and integr…

>I have high hopes that my Linux desktop will be a better user experience than Windows or MacOS soon.

I guess this depends on your definition of "better". I'd say an OS that doesn't force me to view ads is already "better" than one that does.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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I'll just remind everybody that on Linux we have VFIO, where you can passthrough your videocard to Windows virtual-machine, and have almost native gaming. As a big plus, your Win VM's disk C:\ is stored in a file, which you can backup and restore any time you want and not care about viruses/trojans/malware.

Unfortunatelly VFIO is dependant upon your BIOS. Found that mine doesn't have the ability to do this which is frustrating.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Each one of those ads is a free ad for Apple and Linux. “If you had Apple, you wouldn’t have to endure this!” In an ideal world, it would push people toward real life. "Another ad on my computer? I don't need to Candy Crush that bad. I'll go outside."

Outside is boring and, compared to pc gaming, expensive. You have to drive to get anywhere interesting (expensive), there are parking and entrance and camping fees, tourists, and the view is mostly the same as the last twelve times. Sports leagues are expensive, time consuming, and prone to serious injuries you’ll be feeling for decades (and expensive too). And then there’s the short and long term costs associated wi…

Outside is boring and, compared to pc gaming, expensive

I feel very sad for you.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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post #59

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> Why do they think this is at all acceptable? You're still a Windows user, aren't you? (No judgement, just answering the question!)

Microsoft has 95% of the desktop OS market, they can abuse their users with impunity until that number starts to go down.

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide

According to that, Windows' world wide market share is now under 70%. It lost 6% in the past few months starting in December.

A lot of this I find have to do with Valve pushing for Linux gaming. And there is also ChromeOS too (which is Linux). Then there is the unknown portion (which are mostly unrecognized Linux distros). That altogether makes Linux about 13%.

Really, it's the end of an era were Windows is actually relevant for the majority of PC gaming. And with people hating Windows more these days, they are weighing their options from the looks of it.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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I think that includes laptops, where macOS is very popular? For gaming, at least, Steam's stats show 96% Windows.

Here's the relevant Steam Hardware & Software Survey link: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey For convenience: Windows 96.37% OSX 2.37% Linux 1.27% Gaming wise, that's pretty dire. Proton is pretty nice on Linux, but still doesn't and probably never will support all of the titles that people might want to play. In addition, I doubt many companies out there want to test their game releases on multiple OSes and tr…

I'm not just counting Steam's survey. This tells me more: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide

And from the looks of things, Windows is on the decline. Linux and Mac are actually beginning to rise. Unknown are generally unknown Linux distros, and then there is ChromeOS and the recognized Linux distros. Together, that makes Linux about 13%

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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post #151

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Here's the relevant Steam Hardware & Software Survey link: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey For convenience: Windows 96.37% OSX 2.37% Linux 1.27% Gaming wise, that's pretty dire. Proton is pretty nice on Linux, but still doesn't and probably never will support all of the titles that people might want to play. In addition, I doubt many companies out there want to test their game releases on multiple OSes and tr…

I am hoping Steam Deck will change the Linux calculus. I play a lot of games on Linux now because of my deck! Haven’t turned on the Windows machine in a year or so.

Already has if you count the unknown portion (which are unrecognized Linux distros). The Steam Deck is perhaps using some funky user agent that isn't recognized according to this: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#240
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On the fresh install of Windows I do see some ads and ad-adjacent things. But once I disable all of them, that's it. No more. I haven't seen anything at all like this since install day a couple years back. My guess is that people aren't going through and disabling everything. Also, people aren't using piholes which are probably blocking everything that can't be disabled.

>On the fresh install of Windows I do see some ads and ad-adjacent things. I'm curious, did you pay for the installer or did it come bundled with a device?

I bought a key to Windows 7 pro long ago and attached it to my Microsoft account. It upgraded to Windows 10 and then 11 for free. When I want to install Windows I just use the official tool to create install media on a USB stick. Then I login with my Microsoft account during the install process. That's it.
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