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Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by Bellend »

flyinghamster wrote: post #79
krzrak wrote: post #48

That's weird, I have Windows 11 Home installed by the computer manufacturer but I don't recall having any ads. Is that because I disabled them at the start? (don't remember) or maybe because I have pihole in my network? Anyway - no ads for me.

Any time something like this comes up, there's always people it doesn't happen to. It makes me wonder if some random fraction of users get off the hook just to gaslight us.

I'm the same but I don't use PiHole. (I am in UK. Does geography matter?). If I seen ads in my windows start menu, I'd suspect I have a cracked windows copy with a 3rd party spamming me. It's literally that far fetched to me. I always use Pro though as well...

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by cm2187 »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #3

Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

To their defense, if even Apple gets away with it...

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #34
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #3

Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

It also infuriates me that they won't let you actually say no. It's always "remind me later" or "skip for now" or "try again in 3 days". What has gotten into the minds of these people? Why do they think this is at all acceptable?

>"try again in 3 days"

That prompt never comes back for me in 3 days though. Just at the next major OS update about every ~3 months.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by max51 »

soraminazuki wrote: post #38
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #3

Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

For me, it was worse. It happened every time I booted Windows because I only used it occasionally to play games. After I select Windows in the boot menu, I'd spend like ten minutes waiting for Windows Update to complete. Then I have to click through a series of full screen ads and prompts to disable my privacy settings, which is getting increasingly difficult with all the dark patterns thrown in after every new relea…

In my limited experience with VMs, I have found that it's easier to skip it if you disconnect your internet before booting windows. It doesn't remove it completely, but it can save a few clicks. The page where they try to force you to connect a Windows account can be very hard to bypass sometimes with internet access.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by gary_0 »

DANmode wrote: post #59
mostlysimilar wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also infuriates me that they won't let you actually say no. It's always "remind me later" or "skip for now" or "try again in 3 days". What has gotten into the minds of these people? Why do they think this is at all acceptable?

> Why do they think this is at all acceptable? You're still a Windows user, aren't you? (No judgement, just answering the question!)

Microsoft has 95% of the desktop OS market, they can abuse their users with impunity until that number starts to go down.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by blibble »

gary_0 wrote: post #95
DANmode wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do they think this is at all acceptable? You're still a Windows user, aren't you? (No judgement, just answering the question!)

Microsoft has 95% of the desktop OS market, they can abuse their users with impunity until that number starts to go down.

it's down into the 75% range now and is continuing to drop

https://www.statista.com/statistics/218089/global-market-sha...

(reminds me of the IE market share graph actually)

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by cdr »

jjice wrote: post #10

Don't they still charge a $100+ license for Windows? I have Windows 10 for games, but I haven't booted into it in months since Steam has been fantastic on Linux (relative to it's past, it has some ways to go). I'll be the classic Linux desktop optimist: the improvements over the last four years along have been fantastic and I really hope for a future when it can meet everyone's needs. My OS shouldn't advertise to me.…

You can get a technically-legal Professional license from shady websites for $20.

Retail price is ~$140 for Home.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by mooman219 »

pkilgore wrote: post #85

How outrageous! Let me close the Apple Music window for this App I can't uninstall, and that popup that says I can't save my notes unless I have iCloud, and look past the automatically included Apple News and Apple Financed widgets in the notification panel I accidentally opened to go open a browser that defaults to showing me the shortcuts for several third party companies whose services I do not use to get on the i…

I was thinking the same thing. Apple berates the user quite a bit to onboard to iCloud and other services; the screenshot of the new promotion looks about in line with that. If I was a Microsoft PM I'd just pitch the menu as "Apple has the same thing and users are complacent", and get sign off in no time.

I think this is fine battle to pick, I have OneDrive uninstalled on my Windows machine, but I think it's a bit silly a lot of users on here are fine with functionally the same ad somewhere else, I don't want to be berated anywhere on any OS.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by hotpotamus »

twosdai wrote: post #63
twawaaay wrote: post #53

It is death of an operating system. Before our eyes. Microsoft is trying desperately to squeeze a bit more cash out of it but the failing culture within Microsoft is unable to recognise they are driving users off their own product. I already got fed up enough that I basically banned Windows at home and I am impatiently waiting to kill one last Windows box. It is our gaming machine that is generally available to entir…

I've been gaming on pop os for a little while now. It's pretty good honestly. I would give it a shot.

Same - I switched to Pop!_OS last year and after a decade or two of being disappointed with the claims that Linux gaming had come a long way, I'm very impressed with Valve's Proton compatibility.
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