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Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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I have no idea what this is but it doesn’t seem like that big a deal.

If you're not here to engage in good faith just say that rather than openly wasting my time.

You aren't in good faith here. Pot calling the kettle black

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Whats going on at Roblox? Curious, as a parent myself.

Basically every negative aspect of modern gaming at once. Loot boxes, exploitative use of user-created content, unmoderated interaction between adults and children, free-to-play treadmilling to peer pressure children into spending money, etc etc.

user-created loot boxes are the pinnacle of the current gaming environment

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Important to keep in mind that, the Bill of Rights limits the federal government, not individuals. That said, I'd like to see some restrictions/consequences around gun violence in homes, but unsure how that conflicts with 2A; IANAL.

I'm going to let NY know they can ban all guns since the bill of rights doesn't apply to them

Yes, the Constitution limits state govts as well, a slight misstatement written in a hurry.

Your obtuse pedantry is not useful. Particularly when it appears you still have missed the main point of the previous statement—that the Constitution limits government, not citizens.

Also, these laws restrict children, not adults as you're suggesting. Basically this whole subthread is irrelevant. Good day.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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You may be too deep in the community to appreciate, but younger teens have had family supervision for millennia and for good reason. Their brains are not fully formed yet. That you can think up a problematic case doesn’t mean we throw out the concept for the other 90% of kids that benefit from involved parents. Some of the rest are suicide risks even when not being harassed. They’d benefit as well. I personally grew…

> You may be too deep in the community to appreciate, but younger teens have had family supervision for millennia and for good reason. Their brains are not fully formed yet. Of course, I'm not claiming otherwise. Hell, I'm not even saying that legally children should be entitled to privacy from their parents, clearly that isn't feasible or desireable in any way. However, morally and ethically it is not black or white…

Sure. The internet has become even more dangerous as time goes by however, so I don't feel like it should be the first or only solution to the real problem cases you mention.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Laws can't and shouldn't substitute good parenting. Laws of this kind only make it worse for everyone and teen who knows a bit will find ways to bypass them. It's a bad slippery slope to even more government overreach in what was once, an avenue for democratisation of the conversation and freedom: the internet.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. The only way to stop a bad 6-year-old with a gun is to have another good 6-year-old with a gun. ALL NONSENSE!

Yours and the other 2 comments are a descent into madness.

I don't know who you guys are arguing with. Seriously, it seems you're so much into US tribal politics that you simply kneejerk react.

It's insane.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Note that libsoftiktok produces fake content alarmingly often. You ought to read the impact section of their wiki page where it describes how they like to accuse teachers who resign of being fired for grooming children without evidence, or how they manipulate footage from serious discussions between prison psychologists to produce such fantastic rage bait that even Russian propaganda networks use it. If you follow ac…

No it doesn't, fake content doesn't mean content you dislike

In this case it's fake AND I dislike it :) Thankfully, both can be true.

Feel free to peruse the long cited list of occasions in which Chaya Raichik outright lied on libsoftiktok, it's in their wikipedia article which reads as one long controversy section.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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If you're not here to engage in good faith just say that rather than openly wasting my time.

You aren't in good faith here. Pot calling the kettle black

If you'd like to substantiate that feel free. I've provided plenty of evidence, GP has dismissed both replies without supplying any refutation.

Further, if you're unhappy about the points I'm making then explain why you think I'm wrong. Sniping at me from two different comment threads with out of hand accusations isn't doing you any favours.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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“WASP” has the specific connotation of northeastern white people of longstanding American lineage. (The term typically excludes southern and Appalachian whites that technically also are Anglo Saxon and Protestant.) Those people are the vanguard of social liberalism today, in states like Massachusetts and Connecticut. In Florida, meanwhile, non-Hispanic whites are just 51% of the population (versus 65-70% in Massachus…

The graphic depiction of underage people engaged in sex acts is against federal law and most likely Texas law as well. It is baffling to me how the media depicts this as "anti trans" or "anti lgbt" book banning while managing to never mention the specifics of the books. I'm about as liberal as they come on social issues. But I don't think these books are appropriate in an elementary or middle school library.

It's cool as long as they also ban the Bible - incest, rape and what not.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Gay guy here. I have always said that these sort of laws designed to protect children will do precisely the opposite. An LGBTQ child is effectively forcibly outed by this law, potentially before they've come to terms with their sexuality / gender themselves. Whilst I don't doubt social media causes a lot of harm on children growing up, giving parents full access to your messages is not the solution. In my opinion, ba…

The science is that people’s brains aren’t fully developed until age 25. What they have access to before that time should be carefully curated by adults.

But peoples brains also deteriorate with time.

I believe only men(women have a smaller brain size and never achieve maturity) between the ages 25 and 40 should pick books for everyone else.

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