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The GDPR has extensive requirements that can't be met by ChatGPT because it's training on public data sources everywhere.
"Public" data sources aren't in conflict with GDPR
or test it has been implemented?
'exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."' So do (certain) books. That's another issue right? If you let your minor access stuff, they.. access stuff. Hard to control? I know and it is. How is this specific to OpenAI?
> So do (certain) books.
Minors are typically given books that are appropriate to "their degree of development and self-awareness."
Crazy to see how fast all of this is evolving. Honestly the downside of explosive growth is that all of a sudden you need to ramp up resources to deal with these sort of legal T&C issues. It makes sense that now that they're huge they need to operate as a more mature company. They'll hire some expensive lawyers and enable Facebook style age verification on sign up and they'll get away from this one. But I'm sure they…
Isn't openAI basically Microsoft now?
Gosh. Only about 10 years ago I used to be a convinced European from Germany. The last couple of years I started having my doubts that the EU will ever find its own legit style of handling tech concerns. Everything is crumbling and we still see deeply arrogant leadership seemingly trying to bs their way through the current turmoil. And what do they do? Regulate ChatGPT, try to introduce mass-surveillance through #cha…
But this is a domestic regulator, making a domestic finding. This isn't an EU level decision. Countries in the EU have a lot of control over their own affairs, as they should. Conflating EU and Domestic policies is a bad thing (this was done a lot in the UK)
It's a decision by a domestic DPA based on the GDPR. In practice, it will have an impact across the EU, because any company intending to operate uniformly across the EU has to, in practice, comply with the most onerous GDPR interpretation taken by any domestic DPA.
This ratcheting effect is a practical reality given how the GDPR operates. It's also why orgs like Schrems' NOYB celebrate individual victories with the most activist DPAs. They ultimately do have an impact across the EU.
'exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."' So do (certain) books. That's another issue right? If you let your minor access stuff, they.. access stuff. Hard to control? I know and it is. How is this specific to OpenAI?
> 'exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."' > So do (certain) books. Minors are typically given books that are appropriate to "their degree of development and self-awareness."
This is not about what they are given, it's about what they have access to.
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But this is a domestic regulator, making a domestic finding. This isn't an EU level decision. Countries in the EU have a lot of control over their own affairs, as they should. Conflating EU and Domestic policies is a bad thing (this was done a lot in the UK)
It was done massively in the UK, there were many cases of prominent criticism of "EU regulations" that we'd either actively championed, or were optional and chosen to adopt, or that we had actually oped out of anyway.
[1] From the FT but here's a non-paywalled link https://archive.is/p4H9X
Gosh. Only about 10 years ago I used to be a convinced European from Germany. The last couple of years I started having my doubts that the EU will ever find its own legit style of handling tech concerns. Everything is crumbling and we still see deeply arrogant leadership seemingly trying to bs their way through the current turmoil. And what do they do? Regulate ChatGPT, try to introduce mass-surveillance through #cha…
But this is a domestic regulator, making a domestic finding. This isn't an EU level decision. Countries in the EU have a lot of control over their own affairs, as they should. Conflating EU and Domestic policies is a bad thing (this was done a lot in the UK)
In this certain case, I see already other nation's leaders and eventually the EU commission feeling inspired by this "bold" way Italy deals with ChatGPT. And #chatcontrol is an issue that directly comes from the EU commission (again the German "home secretary" is pointing at Brussels while officially hilariously stating "no we won't install client-side scanning everywhere").
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I have a unpopular opinion about this, but IMO it is the population that causes this. Vast swaths of Europe are rural especially in the south. Very, very averse to any kind of change. I'm in the Netherlands as you can tell and 'even' we are not that much more progressive. There is currently a massive farmer uprising and everybody is complaining literally non-stop about just about everything. Meanwhile nobody has even…
> I have a unpopular opinion about this, but IMO it is the population that causes this. Vast swaths of Europe are rural especially in the south. Very, very averse to any kind of change. And vast swathes of technologists are insanely over -enthusiastic about technical change, to the point of it resembling a religion (and the singularitarians are like the monks who self-immolate themselves, except they want to immolate…
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> 'exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."' > So do (certain) books. Minors are typically given books that are appropriate to "their degree of development and self-awareness."
That's right and then they go and find stuff that is not appropriate. This is not about what they are given, it's about what they have access to.
But most kids don't manage to do that for some time. School libraries (typically) don't have porn in them, and internet access is often supervised or limited.
The root of this thread quoted the article selectively. The full quote is:
> It added OpenAI does not verify the age of users and exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."
That is very reasonable take, especially given how insane ChatGPT can be.
[1] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/home/trasparenza/organizzazion...