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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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You are ignoring everything GDPR is about. European data, European rules.

GDPR tries to enforce its rules on servers outside of its territory. I'm still waiting to see how well that holds up in court.

It’s not trying to do that.

It’s trying to regulate the data collection and processing of users in its territory.

On the other hand, CLOUD act was trying to regulate data on foreign servers.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

#132

As a European, it was nice being able to participate for a while. See you in 20 years.

Nah, this is a good move. These huge companies need to stops behaving like they own the world.

Thank you, exactly. The question is when Italy is going to move on Google for using Oracle's copyrighted Java API. Disgusting the EU has allowed it so far, clearly a blatant violation of sacred licensed information.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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In what way does ChatGPT behave like they own the world?

They use every bit of data they can find without regard to the rights of the authors, publishers, or subjects of the data?

But a robots.txt file in if you don’t want a search engine to index you. GPT is just a semantic search engine.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #65

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Have you actually read the article ? A country can ban a service when it doesn't follow its laws, there isn't anything crazy about it It's more like not allowing you to smoke weed you bought in Amsterdam if you already came back to Italy Something being legal somewhere doesn't mean it's legal everywhere > When I connect to a service in the US, my bits are traveling there Well yeah, that's like exactly the issue they'…

It _is_ crazy, because of unknown collateral damage, especially due to proxies, CDNs, and inability of most ISPs to filter using anything except IP addresses. You know, large-scale DPI is for non-democratic countries only.

Or you know they can put a "do you accept data collection for the sake of training our algorithm" checkbox when you sign up and be done with it...

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #81

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That link doesn't really show anything useful. I'll wait to see how it holds up when the EU tries to enforce it against a US website with no presence of any kind in the EU.

> I'll wait to see how it holds up when the EU tries to enforce it against a US website with no presence of any kind in the EU. That's called moving the goalposts. But even in that case: the EU has a lot of power and no matter what you are still required to have a legal presence in the EU if you want to serve EU customers. Breaking the law is generally not the best course of action for any company that wants to stay…

> That's called moving the goalposts.

No, it isn't. That's the test.

> no matter what you are still required to have a legal presence in the EU if you want to serve EU customers.

That's nonsense. There is nothing stopping EU citizens from buying something via my US based website while they are in the EU, and I have no obligation to have any kind of presence in the EU.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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[translation with google] Provision of March 30, 2023 Register of measures n. 112 of 30 March 2023 THE GUARANTOR FOR THE PROTECTION OF PERSONAL DATA HAVING REGARD TO Regulation (EU) 2016/679 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 27 April 2016 (hereinafter, the "Regulation"); HAVING REGARD also to the Personal Data Protection Code (Legislative Decree No. 196 of 30 June 2003); NOTING the numerous interventio…

And here is a translation by ChatGPT (GPT-4) together with a diff against what Google Translate provided you: https://www.diffchecker.com/gPop1UpU/ (Google Translate on the left, GPT-4 on the right) Now we just need a authentic Italian to tell us which version is most accurate :)

I’m Italian. Google Translate is better here

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

#138
post #97

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GDPR tries to enforce its rules on servers outside of its territory. I'm still waiting to see how well that holds up in court.

Nobody is touching other countries' servers. Not even close. Companies can either adapt to the ruling or take their business elsewhere.

> Nobody is touching other countries' servers. Not even close.

No one claimed otherwise.

It's still fascinating (and, I believe, a first) that the EU thinks they have extraterritorial jurisdiction just because their citizens are affected.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Yes, and that's by mutual agreement. I allow you to read my content in exchange for money or traffic. That doesn't mean open ai, a company building a product, has the right to use my work word by word to train their model without my constent and then monetise it - that's theft. Where's the option to remove my content or to stop open ai from using it?

> I allow you to read my content in exchange for money or traffic. Hold on, when did I consent to you monetizing my traffic? I just want to read your content. Pay me a share of the money and then we'll see if I want to allow you to use my traffic to make money.

An excellent point. That's why we have GDPR in europe to prevent me from using you as a source of income without your consent.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

#140
post #99
post #81

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That link doesn't really show anything useful. I'll wait to see how it holds up when the EU tries to enforce it against a US website with no presence of any kind in the EU.

> I'll wait to see how it holds up when the EU tries to enforce it against a US website with no presence of any kind in the EU. That's baseless rambling, sorry.

Nothing baseless about it at all, and it certainly isn't rambling.

Do you have anything to contribute other than misguided insults?

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