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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by rvz »

meghan_rain wrote: post #22
quonn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This 4% rule really has teeth. It is even more interesting for Microsoft, where this would probably eat most of the profit.

God please make them consider Microsoft the owner and calc revenue based on Microsoft's global revenue.

They should and both O̶p̶e̶n̶AI.com and Microsoft were caught by this regulator in the EU.

If this regulator knows what is best, they should definitely fine Microsoft 4% of their global revenues on top of that reckless chat history leakage incident O̶p̶e̶n̶AI.com had.

There is a reason why Google launched Bard in non-EU countries.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by swader999 »

yuri91 wrote: post #12

I asked ChatGPT what it thinks about this ruling: As an AI language model, I do not collect personal data directly as I do not have access to user information. However, I understand that OpenAI, the company that developed and manages the platform, has been ordered to temporarily limit the processing of data of Italian users and is under investigation by the Italian Data Protection Authority. As an AI language model,…

It really shouldn't use the word "I". Other than that it's a decent response.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by kill_nate_kill »

slowmotiony wrote: post #36
jprete wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GDPR has extensive requirements that can't be met by ChatGPT because it's training on public data sources everywhere.

If they're in violation of EU privacy laws then how are they not fined for it or outright banned? I got a fine from the local court in Germany because I put a google maps widget on my company's "about us" page, the court gave me 30 days to remove it.

Did you try paying millions of dollars to lawyers?

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by jacquesm »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #47
thefz wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are ignoring everything GDPR is about. European data, European rules.

GDPR tries to enforce its rules on servers outside of its territory. I'm still waiting to see how well that holds up in court.

It has held up quite well so far.

https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/guides/international-t...

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by lm28469 »

sarusso wrote: post #10

I really don't get this kind of bans. When I connect to a service in the US, my bits are traveling there. Italy "banning" ChatGPT (whatever it means) is like preventing me from getting high in Amsterdam because, as an Italian citizen, I should not be allowed to.. Never got it, and never will.

Have you actually read the article ?

A country can ban a service when it doesn't follow its laws, there isn't anything crazy about it

It's more like not allowing you to smoke weed you bought in Amsterdam if you already came back to Italy

Something being legal somewhere doesn't mean it's legal everywhere

> When I connect to a service in the US, my bits are traveling there

Well yeah, that's like exactly the issue they're pointing out ...

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by weberer »

baxtr wrote: post #41

Saying this as a European: Whenever I visit Italy, I love the food, I love the people, I love the weather and the beaches. However, I often sense that in many places, the country seems to be entrenched in its medieval past. This decision will not accelerate Italy's progress towards a more prosperous future.

They're not banning it just because its AI. They're banning it because it sends sensitive data to Microsoft without the user's consent.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by epolanski »

Zurrrrr wrote: post #40

> The Guarantor for the protection of personal data has imposed, with immediate effect, the temporary limitation of data processing of Italian users by OpenAI, the US company that developed and manages the platform. Pretty sure OpenAI could just ignore this if they wish, unless they have a presence in the EU.

Pretty sure they can't if they want to sell services in Europe at any point in the future.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by yuri91 »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #60
yuri91 wrote: post #12

I asked ChatGPT what it thinks about this ruling: As an AI language model, I do not collect personal data directly as I do not have access to user information. However, I understand that OpenAI, the company that developed and manages the platform, has been ordered to temporarily limit the processing of data of Italian users and is under investigation by the Italian Data Protection Authority. As an AI language model,…

> My training data is sourced from publicly available text on the internet and does not specifically target any individual or collect personal data. Training on publicly available data doesn’t mean that it doesn’t collect PII. Just ask it “who is ?” to demonstrate this for yourself. I asked it about some of my colleagues and it was able to write a brief profile about them, and they’d barely qualify as public figures…

Yeah I mean, I wouldn't trust the accuracy of its answer. But I find it funny that it agrees that OpenAI should comply.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by quadcore »

thefz wrote: post #50
baxtr wrote: post #41

Saying this as a European: Whenever I visit Italy, I love the food, I love the people, I love the weather and the beaches. However, I often sense that in many places, the country seems to be entrenched in its medieval past. This decision will not accelerate Italy's progress towards a more prosperous future.

I am actually very happy about this. If you like to have no protection over how big corporate treats your data as your own, and ingests whatever whenever they need to profit off your personal information, be my guest. But I am happy to have a watchdog over my basic human rights. > However, I often sense that in many places, the country seems to be entrenched in its medieval past. It might be. But not on this front.

I believe this is a totally commendable position but I also believe that you're naive about this ruling. I think this is the power classes freaking out someone might be eating their lunch or discovering their dirty secrets.

For example, what if some italians uses chatgpt and leak things you dont wanna know about italy? That, I believe would prompt otherwise slow-to-act politicians to jump off their rocking-chairs and start making some phone calls.

Not about your neck.

Just a guess.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by jfk13 »

dsabanin wrote: post #25
gumballindie wrote: post #9

Now do protecting our IP and content from unwanted openai scraping. Just because a blog or book is out in the open it doesn't mean a company should immediately integrate it in their product - which is what open ai does. Pay for it and if i agree on the price I shall let you use my content.

If you put it out in the open – someone might read it. If they read it – they may remember it and retell it later or use it in their works. That someone may or may not be a human person. If you want to get paid for the work – don't put it out in the open.

> If they read it – they may remember it and retell it later or use it in their works

And if their remembering-and-retelling constitutes a "derivative work" (or, perhaps, a "public performance"), they may be in trouble, despite the original work being openly published.

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